Emmanuel Mwamba Verified
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Emmanuel Mwamba Verified
MAKEBI ZULU & BRIAN MUNDUBILE COMES TOGETHER
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LIVE NOW; We analyze the development where PF-Pamodzi Alliance led by Hon. Makebi Zulu and Tonse Alliance led by Hon. Brian Mundubile come together.
We want change, we want change, we want change, we want change, yes, we want the change, what full in the body bakuru wapakuru.
SPEAKER_21We are anticipating a major announcement between two major alliances, PF Pamosi Alliance, led by Makebizulu, and Tonsey Alliance, led by Brian Munduli. We hope to carry it live here. They are in some finalization stage, and they've tipped me that they would like to make an announcement, and we'll carry it live here. Today we are discussing opposition alliance. Remember, there are various alliances on board. And you, thanks to you, you've been calling on our leaders to be united. You've been calling on our leaders to share their personal ambitions and look at the greater picture that we need to deliver second independence to our country. That first political independence we got was momentous in 1964. The second independence will not just need to deliver economic independence, but to restate the values of 1964. And today we might have this major development. Remember, Socialist Party president Fred Membe is leading an alliance, People's Pact Alliance. And you have Honorable Harikal is also leading the Orange Alliance. He has David Malumo as president, he has Savoy Mboy as president, he has Robert Mwanza from CDP as president, he has Robert Chansa as president, and we saw recently Moses Maweri joining. But your core is that all these alliances must come together. So today we'll be seeing something, something great today, something that uh you have been calling for. And I hope that you see it live here on this program. I keep on getting lost. Which camera? I have three cameras. There's this one, there's this one, and and then there's this one. So I keep on looking at different cameras. You have to have one on standby just in case the other one goes off. That's a major announcement we are that will be made on this forum. So share the broadcast. And then after the announcement has been made, let's hear the terms of the alliance that is coming together between Brian Mundwili and Makebizulu. Uh, and then let's hear your views after that. But let us hope that the announcement will be made, and after that, we can make the phone calls. So let's go to our ordinary uh programming. We are having a people's discussion, we are discussing opposition unity. Of course, we are anticipating that there will be that major announcement between PF Pamosi Alliance President Makebizulu and Tonsei Alliance president uh and Sharpes and Brian Mundwil and the two will be signing some form of agreement which will be made public because we want we intend to carry it live right now when it is ready. I'm told they are in preparatory meetings, but I was assured that the announcement will be made and you will note it live here. We've been discussing the electoral process and uh the pitfalls that are laid, the traps that this government has laid against the opposition. That has been our preoccupation. We'll go back to that and we'll give you an update of what is happening, who has filed what today I'm aware of uh uh political parties that were filing, how many were successful. We'll go back to that. But you should be on standby on the major announcement that will be coming regarding the PF Pamosi Alliance president Makebi Zulu and Tonse Alliance president Brian Munduwile. You will see it live here. So share the broadcast. I'll let everyone let's gather here and let's see how we can do this.
SPEAKER_12We want change, we want change, we want change, we want change, we want to change the polylabic, but it's not the big body but think about it.
SPEAKER_26And agree with them that it truly it's a man of agents. We don't have time, we then tell me what today is there.
SPEAKER_21Thank you, Greyford Monde, former livestock minister. Today he was at uh Citizen Fest uh uh function where they were receiving some new members, and he gave a message of unity by the opposition. And his call was that the opposition, the various alliances must unite, and that's an appropriate call. Today on EMV, we are celebrating the 100th edition of our newspaper. That today's publication was uh uh 100th um uh edition, and it's a milestone. We'll be making it more public to you. We'll be making it uh there's a website that we've created where you can access the e-copies, a 16-page newspaper, and we publish it uh on Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and Sunday. There's a special edition, the Sunday edition.
SPEAKER_15Others are directors, others are PSs. As long as you got a position in UPND government, know that it is time to work to win an election. You know yourselves wherever you are. You know yourselves wherever you are. You are calling yourself a civil servant, but we're promoted by a gainde HLM and the party UPND. Just know that the time to work it is now. So that we continue delivering the good policies of UPND. We continue to ensure that Acainde ran this country. So our appeal is that everyone now let's go in the same line. If I fought you one day, the issue is voyambana von Sevija tend to be gonna side. For now, all of us, we need to remain united.
SPEAKER_21Thank you very much if you're joining us. Uh today we are expecting something momentous. We are expecting something momentous. And at this stage, uh, I'll be letting you know when we cross over to the team in Lusaka. Uh, I've been made to understand. I've been made to understand that is a major development. There will be a signing ceremony between uh PF Pamozi Alliance president Makebezulu and Tonsei Alliance uh leader Bran Mundu. The two are signing some form of agreement and cooperation. It will be made uh uh uh the details will be made live here. Uh uh we have a team in Lusaka that should help us with the link and we cover it live here. And then we'll be discussing um uh opposition unit. Is it is it possible as shown today? And as the rallying call made by Greyford Moon there. We've been discussing the electoral process and where we are. Remember, when ICZ called for a meeting, there were about 44 uh uh candidates that turned up as presidential candidates, but only 26 paid. Of the 26, we've seen a few failed to file in, and others willfully uh uh uh withdrawing to support other candidates. We saw Exodus Party for Peace and Prosperity, Moses Mawere withdraw and support the candidate of Orange Alliance leader Hari Kalawa. Then we've we've seen some people that That presidential candidate that failed to file on Monday. Howard Kunda of Zambia Weka Party yesterday reported that he had failed to uh to file in. I since spoke to him. He says uh there was a misunderstanding. He has filed out of nine provinces, he filed eight provinces. And he says the members in Lusaka were misled. This government is doing tricks in Mingalato. So the Zambia Wake U Party delegation that went to civic center were told that civic center is full, that they should wait at government complex. And Howard Kunda's members waited at government complex until 17 hours. So they didn't miss a spot willfully. There was a trick and trickery that was done. And he has raised the matter with um is it and once his members that attend up on that day to file in because he has filed in the eight provinces. Charles Chanda, United, Prosperous, and Peaceful Zambia. And again, let me emphasize the reports we've been making is from those that appeared in Lusaka. But you have to you have to file in in each provincial center. So the leaders of these political parties must tell their members their leadership in the provinces must be very alert. Because Nakwena natured kuri mingalato. Where members are being misled or they are being told that they are late, they have to be very, very clear. So Charles Chanda filed in Lusaka. KBF, Zambia must prosper. He also filed in Lusaka. Brian Muntayala Munduanda FDD. He filed, this was on Monday, 11th, May 2026. Given Mwenya Chance, a movement for economic emancipation, he didn't file to acknowledge. And Professor Daniel Chivalepule, a Christian Democratic Party, he didn't file. On Tuesday, which was yesterday, we saw Citizen First Hari Kalaba file in. And today there were social media reports that uh Citizen First failed to file in Mansa. I laughed because Hari Kalaba's biggest strength is in Mansa. And when I called him, he sent me pictures where over 1,000 people that turned up at the registration centers and those pictures. So Hari Kalawa filed yesterday and he confirmed that he filed across the province. I think he didn't file Dr. Sebastian Kopland from um, remember he has an issue with People's Party, where People's Party held a sudden extraordinary conference and replaced Dr. Sebastian Copland. So here Dr. Sebastian Kopland had uh gone as an independent, I think he didn't file. Francis Mandona from People's Party, Sebastian Copland's party also had registered and was allotted an opportunity, but he didn't file. Kasonde Si Mwenda, YG, release Kasonde Mwenda, release Kasonde Mwenda. You cannot hold him. What is his crime? He merely stated that the president got lost and he showed the video. Where is the problem? When the president, President Akainde Chilema was in Kenya, uh, when you look at the video in Kenya when he's arriving, he's greeting people with his left hand. So when I speculate that why is the president greeting his dignitaries in the left hand, if I committed an offense, Kaswon de Mwenda saw VIP vehicles of the president reversing and going and making a U-turn. Anyone who knows minimum state protocol knows that the presidential convoy never makes U-turn. It never reverses. So he was clearly right by speculating and joking about that the president was lost in uh Chinsay. He's been detained for over 11 days so far, and he missed his opportunity uh there. I just need to be alert with Lusaka so that I don't miss the opportunity and have to connect them when they call. Um so that was yesterday. Harikalawas and first filed successfully, and the other four candidates, I think they didn't file. Eno Cruzo Tonga, Sebastian Koplande, Dr. Sebastian Koplande, Francis Mandona Mwape, and Kasonde C Mwenda for obvious reasons. Today there was Chanda Ekatotobe. And Chanda Kato Tobe, when he filed in and he called the provincial centers with Sean Tembo, they realized that ECZ was not issuing any form of receipt or acknowledgement that they've received the hundred supporters. So Chanda Kato challenged as ECZ and then he was given a receipt. This would be my advice to all the other presidential candidates. Ensure that even when you file, ECZ must give you the confirmation. They can do that. So we just have to be very alert. I haven't gotten an update. Boses Mawere, I know that uh Exodas party withdrew. But Dr. Fred Membe filed in successfully in Lusaka and across the province. Even there, you know what is happening. So Ubuteko they are playing in Mingalato and you know, before long your delegates have been sent away. And the people you have sent to man the hundred must be very alert. First bring more than hundred, because it appears the state is attempting to tinker with that process. So, socialist party, congratulations, Dr. Fred Membe, is on that foul. Tomorrow, tomorrow we have um uh five part five party leaders that are filing in. Honorable Makebizulu of Resolute Party. Remember, PF Pamozi Alliance has picked Resolute Party as a special purpose vehicle. Then you have Reverend Dr. Given Katuta, the independent MP. She's now trying to be an independent presidential candidate. Uh, we have Xavier Franklin Chonkolo Chungu. I spoke to the man, remember Ben saying I had no idea that Honorable Xavier Chungu uh is standing, and I hope to bring him here. We we've said when he finishes this process, he's coming to this program. We have Joseph Willam Dolo, I think at us at this evening, is still in South Africa. But to file in, you don't need to be present. Presidential candidates don't need to be there. You can mobilize supporters and they can go there. Okay, let me just get an update from Lusaka and then Dr. Bran Mushimba. I can see Lusaka is calling. Let me find out. Here is a major announcement is that we are anticipating that PF Pamosi Alliance leader Makebizulu and Tonsi Alliance leader Bran Munduvile have agreed to collaborate and work together. And we want to bring that announcement live here on this program. And let me just call Lusaka and find out what he was doing. Uh, you should pay attention to what this Gilbert Lisuaniso says. He gives you the mind of Ichilema. He kept on saying Ichilema is going on up to 2041. So are they going to amend the Republican constitution? Is that what they are going to do? You have to be alert.
SPEAKER_15Others are directors, others are PSs. As long as you got a position in UPND government, know that it is time to work to win an election. You know yourselves wherever you are. You know yourselves wherever you are. You are calling yourself a civil servant, but we're promoted by Againde HLM and the party UPND. Just know that the time to work it is now. So that we continue delivering the good policies of UPND. We continue to ensure that Acainde ran this country. So our appeal is that everyone now let's talk in the same line.
SPEAKER_42But some people they have given up.
unknownNow, if someone from Southern Province can give up, are you telling me that someone from Otaka and Walla can still love him?
SPEAKER_42When you yourself who started loving him before these other provinces started loving him, you've given up. Some of them have like me. I've stopped loving him. Me and my family and other people. We stopped loving him. Now you think if we can give up, I'm also talking because people talk about political. So you think the reason that other people have for giving up on supporting agent are not fighting. They cannot find it. Ask the people. I come up with one more. Why is it that people now? What happened? You can't expect the start moving. Because that's the thing. That is how the West Counter is like right now. Who knows how to speak to people? No, no. That's a thing people speaking. But when it comes to delivery, not we should not accept that fact. That's a thing, not the catalog. You know where the money comes from. When we talk about infrastructure, the money comes from government. Now they say nothing. And you can't expect the customer or the male. That's why that will come from the middle. No, and that means that it's from the presentation. So we are thinking now. I think that money for the people. And yet we have kept on increasing money, no, we've decreased the money from this. But find out how many times you will be surprised that the things that have been decreased. But there is nothing that is coming out. Let us be all about this thing. What if I put it up? What kind of thing is that? What is my PND? What we can watch a whole lot of things. What is like everyone in OPD now? What we're watching. You talk about the leader at the district level at the UPND. It's like what you're watching a weird thing. You talk about the president.
SPEAKER_21So the ceremony is on. I'm having difficulties with my my link, but it's currently live. I'm just sorting it out in the background. So please just bear with me. But it's underway. Makeb is always giving his remarks, so I will just give you the connection just now. The are signing an agreement between PF Chonse, PF Famosi Alliance, and Chonsey Alliance, led by Bran Mundu and Makebi Zulu. They are signing a cooperation agreement, and uh I'm just doing the connections. You should be joining us just now.
SPEAKER_18The cyber security bill. One of the best laws we are going to revisit is the media, is the is the cyber security bill. This is a modern technology which we want to use to deliver medicines in hospitals and consultants if a doctor is seated in Osaka is consulting to help a patient in Kaputa through social media, through the electronic media. How can we shut and restrict such beautiful services?
SPEAKER_21So we have a major announcement in Oswaka's advertised on this program. Makabizulu and Bran Munduilem using their various alliances have come together.
SPEAKER_12We want chess, we want chess, we want chess, we want chess We want the chess colour, but colour button.
SPEAKER_21Okay, this is a live program. We've just had the major development in Lusaka where um Makebi Zulu and Bran Munduvile have signed some cooperation agreement to be bringing you the visuals later and be opening the phone lines. This is what you Zambians have been calling upon. That can the various alliances come together. And tonight we've seen one of the biggest major developments where Makebi Zulu with the PF Pamozi Alliance and Brian Munduili uh with Tonsei Alliance have signed a working together document. As soon as it's made available to us, we'll let you know. As we are sorting out the issues of the visuals, the process has taken place already. You can call. Let's hear your views and uh let's encourage other leaders. Like uh Greyford Monde said, that he wants to see more united.
SPEAKER_20You know the pain, oh my God. That we are going to have to.
SPEAKER_26It means that the present are not all. And agree with them. That truly it's a matter of ages. We don't have time, didn't even tell me. Leroy, today is the 13th. This tells you that we have exactly 90 days to casting a vote. And 90 days is three months from now. In that three months, we need to touch every single corner of this country.
SPEAKER_25Take a message of change.
SPEAKER_26And if we are going to take a message of change to our people, we need to unite. If we don't unite, we've already said we must forget. So I look forward myself, as Grayford Mona, if you ask me, I look forward to alliances. These alliances that are there to further unite and create one alliance before the 13th of August. And if that is doable, let us not become our own eaters. Why are we eating ourselves? Without working together, we will forever be pointing a finger at H. He's surviving. Is he surviving? He wants to survive politically because he has failed to deliver his promises. Therefore, we must also survive to save our people. And that can only happen if we figure out. How many times must we be beaten and fall down and still continue to cry? Do we have a solution? The solution is in our numbers. The solution is in the opposition working together and uniting. Outside that we continue saying in Ningarato, in Indarato, which HS is doing, you know you not do anything different. So I call upon all of you to come together. You, my colleagues in the opposition, you in these various alliances, please let's continue to unite and work together. Only that way can we be able to win. Let me conclude by saying that if you follow what is happening in the UPND today, through their nomination, what you call them, their primary election, have you not noticed that those who are ministers, those who are sitting MPs are all moving? What does that tell you? It tells you that if the MPs of UPND are failing in the primaries, and the ministers of UPND are failing in the primaries, it means that their president has also failed. How can they fail if it's successful? If they have delivered, how come their people are being rejected? So it's an open goal.
SPEAKER_21Thank you very much. The lines are open. You can now call. There's a major development in Oswaka where um uh two major alliances have come together, one under Makebizolu, and the other one under uh under Tonsei Alliance, Brian Munduwile, and Make Bizulu as announced earlier. I've come they've come together some cooperation agreement. And as soon as we get sight of the document, we'll be reading it to you live. So you can call for your views. This is what you have been calling. There are various alliances. There's one, the Orange Alliance led by Honor Bohari Kalaba. There's another alliance led by a Dr. Fred Meme. And now we have these two alliances coming together. Greyford Monde is dreaming of a major alliance. Yes, you can call. Let's hear your voice. And I'll bring in the uh the visuals for that alliance uh announcement. It was supposed to be live here, but for technical issues, I don't know what has happened. But we have the visuals that are coming just now.
SPEAKER_41Political prostitution. Okay. Where now we are seeing the same thing that is happening, you say, in in development, where the civil servant, when a senior civil servant is visiting them, they apparently a person is saying this and this. This is exactly what is doing in the politics. In the first place, a political party is formed.
SPEAKER_21Oh, thank you very much. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I didn't even realize I'd thrown away my microphone because I had to run to pick these phone calls too. I hope that you you got me. But let's pick the calls and let's hear from you. Good evening.
SPEAKER_48Yes, uh, this is anonymous uh calling from within USAF.
SPEAKER_21Anonymous, make a contribution.
unknownI must say that I'm very happy with the development.
SPEAKER_48Uh I am hearing that uh our comrades uh Makebi Zulu and Mundo Mile have joined hands together. And uh, I just want to quickly make a very uncall to all other opposition political parties to do the same thing that Brian Mundomile and Matepi Zulu have done. Um we are putting on um all other political parties like Sean Kembo, Ember's political party, um to brand um who is this former minister of education, Brian Shimba. Let them also let them come together so that we unite as the opposition so that we can have a chance into kicking out the UPND. We should not underestimate the UPND. They are strong, they have done their groundwork as well, and looking at winning this election, so bred member must be spoken to. All these others, they have to come together. Let them all make one alliance and first president one-on-one with one political party, or at least three, so that it is easier for us, the Zambian people, to choose between a two party games, not these 26 that we so pay, you know, nomination fees. So we are calling on all these other political parties. I'm sure uh Dr. Fred Membe is listening uh these other political parties, uh where uh short, please, we are begging you as the Zambian people, may you come together, let us unite as the opposition and try to kick out the UPND government. The UPND is strong, that is the truth. And for you to challenge the UPND, you just have to work together. Thank you, Mwamba.
SPEAKER_21Alo Cola, please tell us your name and where you're calling us from, and uh uh tell us your contribution.
SPEAKER_50Good evening, Ambassador.
SPEAKER_21Yes, indeed, good evening.
SPEAKER_50Thank you very much this evening. These two alases have made to a total. Bones bones, bones, bones alas, seni, go diabati, send it to me chimon, and all ukta u PND and H Hakwa fish, pantu navantubaku mumbali, now women e child cana, cana, tabatimwe, navalava MP was ever som Pura mupiaf, abakuati no ba bayeba pangaba wanba piefu. Tabale pitoku vale, because covering bakwete ni U PND, abantalifa U PND, yeah but an Ama Light for four years, elopakule Kesha Ilandati oikaleni to kampilamalite. Omufwa kulisha ba yu pd, www.kawishomtengo, eluba nini komtengo. Yo midi mutukowa nya wino winu em se wen a fimbi eloch ako se chanumba, echuba yus elo chash of sana. A papi ni epakulosha imich pingo chanat uwa chin kapatu no no, na pafinji fine. So other li soku ba yachinka m first termy. Ave nival kato ba u p nd. At first time u pnd htefi first time htefi. Uh, first time one term political party musambia ni UPND under HH. Ba opposition ni alatu wa papa tawe umane nyaka pi. The politico se ya papa. Kui chia si wonse, mko nfuanani, ne chifani ama government ministri yakala womba. Neawa kabamo. Tapako se ya papa no, no gamuadi yung finish with yaba kaindeba ECO ba landija tba wwela. Baaka inde bayoksan province no klandati. I have seen that PF they are gathering, they have been begun gathering. Is it wrong or is it wrong for the opposition, not just PF, to be gathering. Echo wadiki ne kolombane ifafunde chapati, no wakumana watatu nishi chala kosa. Iba mwana zambia muika lava puala lafino, ukwebati, tungatuwa kumana wata nishi yaba misoka. They mean to say that kuniku kukumana no ku la panch chanyamano. Echo wava sunguba pangi e kuma township stwy kala, nga kunoku provincial headquarters yea northern province, kunokoakaputa, pakasama epa headquarters, kwa dba e the township wat eat wat location, pesambayanu pin padia. Eka le kalaba fi takuya, sungu panapamulupa platu, babika pufeba kapokola palapamuru kwa twaya fudita securityawa. Namuaiza musa konsaba yuminini, or woodlands, or roads party, or cheshi. If we batu tumakuma teroko, ngabatu pala mika kupachi lenge padya. Nishba legitoktupatu kanyok tali kuta, kuti na tuilaku wana luku ba uniteduaba united, we shall do one big thing. What was the big thing? Kumatanfia, uchadu. So e formula na uba kainde valete, um uhziosa chinju kwa twila mpana pamu tuilakumana kuasungwati he who succeeds in shali sumi chalanda atu wingakumancho kupa tu kanya being grish awina. So, akinda le wombela, ukupa tu kanya. Na formula yaku, yakwa na kubana kulupa tanzania poasalia mmasalima. Ukuka ka won sewa yuba opposition. Poku ya mku vote ujana mayungga wanimu kambide ale in the kwata aliam kunwa fia mish. Nish nice but kamjuba nichufuka kuruva votel. We won't allow that. Ikataleni tuap papa. Thank you mkwa iba mwamba. Thank you.
SPEAKER_21Thank you. Let's go go on checking. I still have a problem with the link. Hello, caller. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from. Hello, caller.
SPEAKER_39Hello, hello, good evening, Ambassador.
SPEAKER_21Good evening.
SPEAKER_39Yeah. I cannot keep quiet and watch from the terraces. I thought I should be part and the parcel to join this um uh to comment on the great news that we've heard. This has been the call for many, many uh Zambians that have been calling that people should uh opposition they should unite. And I know the message goes to everyone who has been calling and who still calls for unity. The other gentleman Monday has been preaching that we should unite. The more we you stand, division causes problems, otherwise, we'll regret in the near future. But the the more we approach this exercise of elections in in August with unity, then we shall proceed, we shall prosper. Coming to HH Ambassador, HH is um the devil. Actually, let me take it from the from the spiritual point of view. This man, the devil enjoys when people suffer. It's like the vampire. A vampire sucks the blood. And uh I we I will repeat this the vampire sucks the blood, feed from the blood. This is what has been happening in this land, this land needs deliverance even as we approach these elections, as pastors, bishops, those true men of God need to stand and pray for this country. Because uh apparently, if you have noticed this country has been, from the time he took over office, it has been accident after accident, accident after accident, at a point that this man is crying and crying day and night for the body of the late president. This tells very clear that this man is nothing but the worship of the devil. So, as a country, we need to stand together, even as we approach this election that there should be no bloodshed. Don't forget, he enjoys the suffering, he enjoys the blood. So I'm just appealing to all we're all loving Zambians that they should come together and pray, even as we are approaching these elections to the opposition. Thank you. We still need to see more people coming together. Thank God.
SPEAKER_21Please make your contribution.
SPEAKER_06Because mafizia, numba tin tru na mala lances yambi, a kwete party iri stable, and then tuman yaka pit wombe pamu because you have Amazambians badefuera to bamundubi naba makebaikatana at nangura, babika naba mundina bamwe de baikatana. Chentuma numa lances a numba ni sap ni sa lansi iku politiku party stable. Yo tu wonfi like na mwana atlisti si si fide tumbu nabahika laba atuma orange alansi. Na kwata si mechi ichi panichi ko ste bochu tungaba fecha bad ngwa opposition wonsa mumucharu chazamengatu, batu musi fatuta mafia ksa kamenakova tio bala ba tetu bala tukechi pani nam fera skefi on se. So numba bamakedinabamundu vide, bekai pamonabari karaba, bam monefu bala bomba pamu pada inama deziya sharako, do atlasanaba mumba.
SPEAKER_21Thank you very much. Hello, cola. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution.
unknownGood evening, Ambassador.
SPEAKER_21Good evening.
SPEAKER_32Uh, today I am very happy. I would like just to thank you very much, Ambassador, for the work for the work that you've done so far for these people who have come together today. Uh President Makebizuru and uh President BMA. Uh Ambassadoramba. Otherwise, I am very happy. All I wanted just to say is that uh since these people have united today, this is just what the Zambian people needed. Bamuneko BMW, Bamunava President Makebizuru, Utirawa Wise Pamu. Navena kutiwachite to all we want is that Amazambianzi, our story awavan to the Sepamo, Amazambianzipawaya Chinjogute. Otherwise, we are very happy.
SPEAKER_21Thank you very much very much. Alakola, please tell us your name and where you are calling us from and make your contribution.
SPEAKER_17Thank you very much, Ambassador. This is Uncle Jay once more.
SPEAKER_21Yes, Uncle Jay.
unknownThank you.
SPEAKER_17Um, it's it's it's a delight side, uh, just to see uh, you know, these big leaders that have just come up uh together. Zambian people have been calling for unity, and it shouldn't just be lip service, but I think action must follow. And what we've seen is exactly what we've been calling for uh for the longest time. It's beautiful, and uh we pray that it is genuine, it holds, and um, you know, more uh political parties actually see this and become part of this. Um, I think for the longest time we can see that these two leaders have been the leading uh leaders in the opposition, and uh so they need the support. Let us have more, you know, let the opposition look at the bigger picture. It is Zambia, it is about independence or two that we need. So uh this is a beautiful thing for me. I'm really excited. Um I'm I'm I'm out of words just to see what happened today. Thank you so much, Ambassador.
SPEAKER_21Okay, thank you very much. Okay, the phones are ringing. Call you you participate in the debate. Hello, caller. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from. Yes, I'm free. Hello, Cola. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and uh um give us your contribution.
SPEAKER_33Uh thank you very much, my brother. This is Muntumususu. I'm calling you from Nosaga Zambia.
SPEAKER_21My dear brother, make your contribution.
SPEAKER_33The news is very exciting. I'm very happy about this news. I'm not quite sure about the timing, but the timing, because we are dealing with a cunning government which has declared Mingalato. Because, see, wherever this government is right now, they are scared. And they are equally planning. So, what I'm saying is that what has happened is what we have been calling for every day on this platform. The real penny is between Blanimundure and Makebizuru. That is the real equation. But we need to keep our eyes open. We are dealing with people who are very cunning, who have declared Mingalato. We must be able to change according to changing situations. We are led. We are led. We are led to ensure that we go in massive numbers. We wake up the youth who were in Chito. There's no job. They were duped and they know it. They will wake up very early in the morning to ensure that we vote out President Daga Indeitrema. President Daga Indeitrema, my brother Ambassador Emmanuel Mwamba has brought and toad misery in this country. That is what he came to do. Right now, as I'm talking to you, Nima, Nima, the masterpiece of Dr. Stell Truth, has collapsed completely. They are removing the packages. And that is the only avenue that poor people had to have a bite, but excellent health delivery successful. He has food to manage it. The man is busy doing whatever he's doing. So what we are saying is that we thank um President Branim Mundo, we thank Makebizul. Please, we as people of Zambia are looking at you. We all and even these other extended allowances. Let them be on the lookout. Ensure that we all come together with one thing and ensure that we flush out this government that has brought misery and hunger. Ambassador Manu Mamba. Pamela, you can imagine when you stop talking about minomium. Now in homes, people are busy talking about minomium. Buying Pamela my handbags, they are busy in this one in shop, buying Pamela is putting in handbags. That is the misery and destruction. I don't even know why he's insisting to say he wants to stand. With all this misery that he has brought in this country, the only people he has threatened are those people who you featured in the Swaniso. Did you see Gilbert Iswaniso before become president? That man was called a mosquito because he was as thin as a mosquito. Now that man is owning a mind. All these are criminal activities that they have thought. You can see how round he has become. He was slim like a mosquito. I used to meet him on Taunum with Trotcos. Today from nowhere, he's been given in some mines somewhere by some Chinese. Just found him walking in Kanyana and told him, Stop here. I want to give you cars in the mines. So all these are criminal activities these people are running away from. We are appealing to the opposition, please, the opposition. We the people of this country are resolved. You heard what that Tonga or Joe that you prayed from Southern Province. Even the people from Southern Province have told me. We are saying that we are allowed to move. The only thing is that we want the opposition to be decided. Even the entire southern province, they just want to get the votes that he has been getting before. People are annoyed there with him because he also inflicted the hunger there. So, Ambassador Emmanuel Mwamba, my point is that please, we are very grateful over this news. I am very excited. I'm very happy about this news. But please let us ensure that. Pray for opposition leaders to ensure that they are able to change tactics according to Mingala to that Ka India is going to play. Now, Mika one be the Basa de Manu Mamba, my brother.
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SPEAKER_20Our Heavenly Father, we come before you this evening. As we begin, Almighty Father, we refuse to start on our start with us, Almighty God. And with us, who are we? Who knew about us? Only you and we only Almighty Father. And so we shall speak with one another with each other. And Lord, we agree Almighty Father. To show love to one another, and to work together, and help our country. We bless your holy name for your words and we pray for the people out there who are doing praying almost in private places. And we say, Lord, when it is done. We are going to be a name. Because all the glory and all the honor. We worship you this way and we say. Thank you, Jehovah God.
SPEAKER_21That is the development we have in Lusaka. Two political alliances have come together. Today they signed the cooperation agreement where they pledged to work together. And if possible, feature a ticket of president and running men. The details will be coming later, but the purpose of today was for the two political alliances, PF Pamosi Alliance and Townsi Alliance to come together. And you saw the two leaders and since given their various statements who play the statements here. Many of you have called for unity in the opposition. And already you are saying it's not enough. What about Honorable Harry Kalaba and his orange alliance? What about Dr. Fred Membi with his People's Pact? Where to? But today was a beginning. The two leaders already, Brad Munwile has, I think, has paid one uh the 100,000 culture under FDD and brought in the 1,000 supporters. Makebi Zulu is doing the same thing. PF Pamosi Alliance are the special purpose vehicle code resolute party. Tomorrow, Makebizulu at 11 hours will be filing in Lusaka and across the country. I just got a call from Howard Kunda, who says they filed everywhere except Lusaka, where his candidates will be slain. And reporter was saying that he's now engaged in talks with um with uh uh uh uh ECZ to see how the hundred can file. So let's take your cause, let's take your cause over this decision that uh and development that has occurred this evening.
SPEAKER_19Well this is the day we will rejoice and might be uh in a place that is not colorful, but the concept behind this gallery okay, ladies and gentlemen, the line is open.
SPEAKER_21Let's hear from you allocally. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contributions.
SPEAKER_46Thank you so much. Good evening, Company Mwamba.
SPEAKER_21Good evening.
SPEAKER_46Uh this is yeah, this is David Chikumi, and I'm calling from Western Province, that's Mongu. Uh, Mr. Mwamba, allow me to commend these two guarantee readers for what they have done. Honestly speaking, these leaders they have done a very recommendable job. And for the first time, these people they have obeyed or they have listened to the cries of the masses of this country. For the first time, these two leaders they have made the faces of the masses to smile, or they have put a smile on the faces of the masses. And I want also to urge my brother Hari Kalaba to do the same. Hari, I know you are listening, my dear brother. On your own with that alliance, you can't make it. On your own with that orange alliance, my dear brother Harry, you are not going to make it. See, the people that you are dealing with, these people they are very sophisticated. These people they are very criminal. I don't know how I can describe them. So please, in order to hold these people out from this government, you should emulate what uh Brian and MacKebby they have done. Also, my KBF. Also, my meme, Bashon Tembo, please do the same. What people they are saying, see, Pamuamba, from the time that you have opened uh this uh uh this this platform, all along people they have been crying for this thing, all along people they have been mentioning for these leaders to come together. So, all these who have remained, please we want them all to come together so that they can make one concrete thing so that we can wound out these people in government.
SPEAKER_21Thank you, my brother. Thank you. Yes, Cola, please tell us your name and where you are calling us from and make your contribution.
SPEAKER_05Good evening, Ambassador.
SPEAKER_21Good evening.
SPEAKER_05My name is Nkole, I'm calling from Lusaka.
SPEAKER_21Nkole from Lusaka, make your contribution.
SPEAKER_05But I've got one question. If you are woman, kebi, is he going to go ahead? What's his supporters?
SPEAKER_21Yes, he's going to document file. Yes, he's going to file.
SPEAKER_05We're going to do that. Yes. Then second, okay. Then secondly, I wanted to find out on the on the basis of FDD upababa. Are the documents all in order? Because that's our worry. Because if you are block, it should be on the basis of the documents which they have at the registrar of societies. So we need guidance on that.
SPEAKER_21Okay, no, today I think today we are just restricting ourselves to this development and unity. The technical aspects of why resolute party why FDD and how these will come together. Let's wait for the documents to be made available to us, then we are going to analyze. But for now, it's merely two political alliances that have come together.
SPEAKER_05I want to talk to my wait for that feedback so that we know which directions to go. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER_21Hello, Cola. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution.
SPEAKER_05Hello.
SPEAKER_14Hello.
SPEAKER_21Hello.
SPEAKER_14Hello, good uh evening.
SPEAKER_21Good evening.
SPEAKER_14Uh Ambassador, am I live?
SPEAKER_21Yes, you are.
SPEAKER_14All right, thank you. This is MK6 calling in from Pretori.
SPEAKER_21MK6, make your contributions.
SPEAKER_14Okay, thank you. So um we've seen and uh we have overjoyed, and I just wanted to contribute a bit. I think is it Zimmer tends to the way I saw a poll which was going on, and I was doing my calculations, and I think this has helped. I was doing my calculations, I think H was leading, and um I asked myself to say we removed BMAT in the equation, and we had the opposition where many they were not even equaling what BM BMAT did. And this now is answering the prayer of many Zambia, of which I know to say greatness is the major disease that we have in our country. And uh I it's very quick to mention to you that that is the backbone of all our issues that we are facing right now in the country, including how this mingles are being played, because they went on the mind of uh a suffering of a suffering citizen. They they give you a cognitive view, and that's how you see your party. But we are these uh very corrupt minds, we have a few who can stand and defend the democracy and the institution of this country. And this is where we need to talk about this unity that is happening. Because if I was to ask you a question, Honorable Mama, are you telling me that even if those opposition parties came together, are you telling me that some will not benefit from the Zambian cake? It's impossible. We have quite a lot of money that the all 20 million people of Zambia are surviving on. So, why should they be a scramble for power?
SPEAKER_21Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you.
SPEAKER_14Remove the ego, let us remove those greedness and stand as a unity. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER_21Hello, Cola. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution.
SPEAKER_31Good evening, Mr. Mamba. This is uh Uncle Joe calling you from uh uh Ndola.
SPEAKER_21Yes, Uncle Joe from Mundola, make your contribution.
SPEAKER_31Yes, please. I I also want to join the masses that are congratulating the the two leaders, great leaders that have come together. I think this is the call that we've been making always. And to you, uh Mr. Emmanuel Mwamba, I want to thank you so much. I'm sure you've labored for over eight months now on your program, and also the Zambian people for calling on these leaders to come together. But I've got one word or two ways that I want to tell this same leader that have come together. Surely, this is the way to win the next coming elections, but let's not close our eyes because the other party, or should I say the UPND government is not idle, they are also planning. And please, I want to be open here, Mr. Mwamba. Some of the people that we have seen who are the project of UPND, even if they want to come and join, please do not accept them. Our leaders, let's not accept some of them. I know politics is a game of numbers, but some of them we know they are projects of UPND. They have destabilized PF. And even when they seemed to have come together, they again did the same thing that they did. So this time around, let's be very, very careful. We've been praying over these things to come. And now I call my last word, Mr. Mwamba, is I call for other leaders. Ankomembe, please, we love you. Come. KBF, the strategist, please come also. And Mr. Kalaba, please, once you come, this is the cry of Zambian. Come and let's be together and forge ahead. We are going to win this, regardless of how many plans or tricks that they play. Otherwise, on our own, we are not going to manage. Uh, Mr. Mwamba, I want to thank you once more, and I want to leave time for other people to participate. Otherwise, this is a wonderful news for all of us. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER_21Thank you. Hello, Cola. Please tell us your name and where you are calling us from and make your contribution.
SPEAKER_43Good evening, Your Excellency.
SPEAKER_21Good evening.
SPEAKER_43My name is Hendrix, Your Excellency, calling you from Lusaka.
SPEAKER_21Hendrix from Lusaka, make your contribution.
SPEAKER_43Thank you, Your Excellency. Your Excellency, Icha Kwambirapo Nato Shidi, Ba Honorable Bran Mundure, Naba Honorable Makebi Zuru. You don't know what you've done for us, the people of Zambia. And now Fuangawala Muna, his excellence, president Edgar Chagalungu. Um do whatever his because this was his dream. This was oh, let me just put it this way: this is Edgar Chagalungu's legacy. Because our president, our late president, Bari Fua in Tungushi show, Avena Zambia, then Gafuma Muniu Uchoshi. So, Your Excellency, there to Tara Sana Kuntung. My appeal is that unity you periodizulu, you period blind mundovi, Bahari Karaba, Bakeb, all our opposition leaders. Please do it for us. Do it for us, the people of Zambia who are suffering, who are buying a expensive meme, who are buying expensive fuel, who are buying expensive fit riser. Do it for us. I thank you, Excellency.
SPEAKER_21Thank you.
SPEAKER_43I thank you, excellence.
SPEAKER_21Hello, caller. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution.
SPEAKER_24Yes, good evening, manuam.
SPEAKER_21Good evening.
SPEAKER_24Yes, my name is Charlotte calling from Kawwe.
SPEAKER_21Yes, Charlotte. Please make your contribution.
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SPEAKER_24Imano Mwamba Takurichin Pitcho Twatemuchari. Prince to a papa tachiper la penema politico parties yon sefie abarimu opposition on se vese pamu. Idena kwato la sana kuriba make bizulu efebachita uti la vingavela pamu pako ba tufunypoba yopiendi. Pantuhuteko waba yupiendi. Nga wari wekenepona kaidi, katu shakingesaikala. Tuka toka wonsa mchalo chesucha zambia. Ichi ini dikt teta turimo. I tete moklas, naif mamuri mo dimoklasi ni dikt teta. Takuabekwesa mkupanga, ama funde, aya chalo, aya kana ishibishave nvea chalo zambia, ukulapanga feuku itemenwa. Uku mukwe itemenwa kwa. Mulan wakat bafilo kukuteka, na beshu kwat pakgroun taturipo, nomba kulu shok sendere chalo, ipunde muminwe. Baneri mutti, ba spika ba neri mutti, ukuisa kule chistra, ba eche ba sendere chalo kwa jabantuba tatu. Bati ni shaba tu po kele obuntu mwa baka wunda tabatu chitrefi. Lelomu muntu wa isa chsanga fi, uša chita ponangufimo, u sheba alungwa babefi, e chingari tekere. So pristua papapata sana mwebena zambia wonse mwebale umfu. Twafu kamaturi panchama votas kadi tuabana eena, tufu yepuba e ch echiwalea, pantu wuteko wava free maso nyuvo turimo. Thank you so much, Mr. Imanuba.
SPEAKER_21Thank you very much. I've got two more call. I mean callers waiting. There is a queue. So see if you can uh be a a a brief in your remarks. Hello, caller. Please tell us your name and where you are calling us from and make your contribution.
SPEAKER_18Hello, good evening.
SPEAKER_21Hello, good evening. Please make your call.
SPEAKER_40Hello, good evening. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER_21Oh, Father Donosco from Italy, make your contributions.
SPEAKER_40Yes, my contribution is um uh I've just heard about the story of uh Mike Bizulu and Brian Mono emerging together, which is uh uh a positive. Um, and I think the Zambian people for so many times many times they have asked for these people to come together. And I just hope that um uh uh this meeting, this coming together can uh really umage to be something so concrete. So uh kudos to these two leaders, and how I wish, how I wish the other opposition leaders like KBF, Harikalara, Kaswanda Mwenda, who is in the police custody, and uh other people, how I wish, in even Copeland, Copeland and other uh opposition leaders, how I wish, gentlemen, you colleagues, we understand your um your independence and your freedoms of exercising your political uh careers, but when you see a country that can pass 74 bills in less than two weeks, um it's not a joke, it's something so serious. We don't know who we there are a lot of questions that we can ask. I'm not going to enter into asking questions, but uh but uh but at the uh today, today, I'd like to thank you as well. Um you have brought us so long. Uh we have quarreled on your platform. Some of us have been insulted on your platform because we have been advocating for what today may I hope it is just the beginning. Uh Makebizolu and Bran Mundi coming together. I hope it is just the beginning. I do not hate uh President Haka Indechilema, but I do not accept the method that Hakka indexilema has been using. The last amongst the Overwamba is the Public Order Act bill, which reminded me of what happened in the years 1600 or 1702 or 1730s. And that public order act was meant to curtail the black slaves. I have to be categorical here. Black slaves, not white slaves, but only black slaves. Now, in Zambia, I think we have obtained independence in 1964. We a majority of Zambians are black people. I thought we are independent. I could never, even a dream, in a dream, I could never, even in a dream, thought about a government that could propose a public order act of the people gathering together, not more than three, when our country is now a democratic country. So for this reason and for other reasons, Vamwamba, may God bless you. You have been doing this job, you have gone under, you are in the situation where you find yourself because of speaking to for the Zambian people. We are going to be insulted. We have been insulted. I have been insulted. I do not uh I do not complain because when you are a leader, you are aware to be insulted as well. It's okay. So it doesn't matter. But what matters is that your platform, on your platform, you have allowed the Zambian people to speak to our leaders today. Makebizulu and Bran Mundibi, they have listened and they have spoken publicly to say the Zambian people, the bishops of the Catholic Church in Zambia, the leaders of the different congregations, the university students, the marketeers, they have said, you comrades, why can't you come together? And today, Bamwamba, we can hear these people coming together, kudos. And today, in a new catholic of mwamba, today is the feast of our lady of Fatima, the Virgin Mary of Fatima, who appeared to the three young, young, young kids, and the miracle happened in Fatima. So today I'm going to say, thanks, Vamuamba. Remember this. I hope you remember this. You are not a Catholic, but you are going to make uh some studies and make a research. Today, 13th of May, is the feast of our lady of Fatima. Research and understand what happened and the conventions, the conventions of the people because of this Deva Muamba. Thank you so much. God bless. We bless you, we bless your name. I bless Mwamba. I bless you. I bless you, the Zambian people. We deny the mustons, the masons coming to Zambia. We deny them. I would like, I bless you, Mwamba. I bless the Zambian people who are fighting. We don't hate Hakande Chilema. We don't hate the people of Southern Province. We love them. I love the people of Southern Province because they are Zambian people. And thanks to Dr. Kenneth Kaounda, one Zambia, one nation, I believe this motto in my heart. So I love the people of Southern Province, but someone in these past five years has tried to make us enemies. We reject to become enemies. I don't want to become an enemy of any other person. I studied at the boarding school, Chihuahu Technical Boarding School, from any different provinces, and we loved each other. So we deny anyone who wants to divide us. We want to come back to Akaounda's motto: one Zambia, one nation. If I love Makebizulu, it's not that because I am an enemy of Bran Mundubile. I just love Makebi Zulu. That's it. Thank you. Kudos, Bamwamba.
SPEAKER_21Thank you, thank you, Father. Thank you, Father, for me. Hello, caller. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from.
SPEAKER_53Hello, my name is Teresa.
SPEAKER_21Teresa, make your contribution.
SPEAKER_53Oh, good, good evening, Honorable Ambassador Emmanuel Mwamba. First of all, thank you. Thank you so much for giving me this opportunity to also participate. Um, therefore, talking as Brian Mundovire, naba Magebizuru, bakobati baisa wonze pamu. It is such a joy. There's a big possibility to kumati kuti to a foot, especially na batonsi alliance. But betray bamwamba. Baba president. Please, please, betray tafia chitika. But betrayal guys, women. So it's a wama. That's very good. But great things nowadays, so you have much. Thank you, thank you, thank you so much, Mr. Mwamba. Bali Sabani Pali, thank you. God bless Zambia. Thank you. Thank you.
SPEAKER_21Hello, Cola. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution.
SPEAKER_42Good evening, Mr. Mwamba.
SPEAKER_21How are you? I'm very well, thank you.
SPEAKER_42This is the Han Chega calling you from Mazaboga.
SPEAKER_21My dear brother, make your contributions.
SPEAKER_42Thank you so very much, Mr. Mwamba, for this program. I think um it's a kubarilako. Therefore, kto telabamba kebi na ba mundumiro kuisa chapamo. No, babakuisa kwa bo chapamoning kwata kwa makonse ya viri nangula yatatu. It's a kubarilako ba mwamba umonto akweba sita kwe tenganda. No, siku tenganda munangwe, bata posa mabwe. Yakwebati ba lombe koquika tule lomba kuenganda obetu ingi nemotularemo. What am I talking about? It's a good thing that our our brothers Mundo Mire and Makemi have come together. But my concern is that these two, both of them, they don't have political parties. They I don't know what plans they have going forward, but my worry is that they do not have a political party where they are going to stand on because according to what I know, they paid, like for Mundubi, they paid as FDD. The other colleague Malkedi Zul also paid as the I don't know what party it is. So now the mingal at is going on in FDD, we are all aware. The mingal attacks that are going on in the other party for Makedi, we are all aware. What I don't understand is is it possible that they can now go and say on the day of filing to say 20 in the number, but five or some uh hundred supporters province under FDD as Munduvireine, now is under the other political parties. I don't know if this is here to give them another time to say, okay, Kabir number since now we say other political party, so number cave and footy still verify. I don't know how lucky Munduvire will be to be granted that opportunity. But what I know is that he is now FDD. He paid under FDD, but under FDD, you will need to have your certificate signed by those people. And in this case, the information, the signatories that are there at the registry of society for FDD is the led Madam Edity Nawakumi is a row resting peace. So now, how are we going to resurrect but now sign a adoption certificate? How are we going to do that? So, what am I talking about, Mr. Mamba? What I'm saying is that Aba Nensu.
unknownHello?
SPEAKER_21Yes, we can hear you. Hello. Hello. Oh, we lost him. We lost him. But I think his point is very clear. Hello, Cola. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution.
SPEAKER_49Hi, Ambassador Mwamba. This is Queen Pumi.
SPEAKER_21Hey, my dear sister, how are you?
SPEAKER_49I'm very good today. Today is a good day. We are smiling.
SPEAKER_21Wonderful, wonderful. Make your contribution, my sister.
SPEAKER_49Thank you so much. I have a couple of points. Um, number one, I would just want to thank the two teams and the two honorable men for finally teaming up. I think this has been the cry of many. Uh, but it not it should not end at these two teaming up. I think the all the opposition must team up. Because if they don't, we shall never forgive them. We shall never forgive anyone who has uh a following or who has the power to make a decision to take Zambia in a better place and decide to run along for all because of the ego or because they want to be a president. I say this because Zambia has slipped into slavery, not dictatorship. Slavery by our own kind. How the hell can we did we get here where a parliament can rule to bring a law that was used 16 centuries ago to oppress black people? We are all black parliaments and our fellow human beings, same DNA, Awantu Besu, to rule a slave law into law in our land in 2026. This is unacceptable. And every Zambian should be angry and the blood boiling. And it had to take such a draconian law to be passed for this unity to take place. We let's look at what happened to Vahaka Inde on that road in Mongo. The international community, it was everywhere. We had the Commonwealth to come and broker peace until Valungu may rest, may God rest his soul, release Vahaka Inde. Where is the international community today when a slave law is enacted? Do we see this on the CNN or BBC? What is it telling us? We are on our own. Shame on you. I'll say the last thing is Dubai was built uh with a 500,000, 500 billion. Zambia has trillions of dollars, and look where we are. Our country is like in shambles. So the the unity is key here. We have to end this slavery that has been brought in Zambia, and I hope everyone can unite and take Zambia out of this mess. Thank you.
SPEAKER_21Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you.
SPEAKER_22Honorable Makebi Zulu and uh Mundovile Brian under PF Famosi and Tonsei Alliance have decided to come together. We want to assure the nation that this is not a marriage of convenience. We are doing it from the bottom of our hearts. In response to what the Zambia has said. We formed the nation this morning to held the Politic Bureau meeting. This is the meeting of leaders where we discussed extensively regarding this particular marriage. And I know that my brother on the other side also had meetings with these people discussing this marriage. So this marriage is not necessarily between all the Makebizulu. All the leaders that are mentioning here and the leaders on the other side are all coming together. We are now existing as one. All the activities will now be done jointly. And to demonstrate that commitment, I know that tomorrow Honorable Make Bizulu will be clearing the number the supporters in provinces. So please, don't say Alliance members, turn out in your numbers to go and give support because now we are waiting for another big event coming on Saturday. The announcement will come later. So all these events now will be able to do them as one. So mwena Zambia, Pakulolela, Mwalolela, Mwale Ukuti. So Kashi, Gafila Fine, Mulanda Yonsei, Ukuti Avantua Chula, Ichalo Chao Naika, Chinchi Twaika Dilan Sale and Sale. Uno wishum kankalachi. Ine uyo munandi makebizolo emueluandi. Tamufuyokulasa kama yo chala basani uhwali wumba popamo, kwa yangala popamo, kaichi is about relationship. And this time around, my dear brother, I'm very grateful. We have a duty. Duty is to save the Zambian people. People are suffering. I believe the way we've come together, put our forces together, and be able to confront the many challenges of the Zambia.
SPEAKER_21That is a matter we are discussing today. A major alliance, uh development of two major alliances coming together. And as you heard Brian Mundu, their leader of Tonsei Alliance, saying beginning today, they'll be doing joint programs of activities, and we are taking your course. What is your view about this development? The development is at PF Pamosi Alliance led by Makebizolo and Tonsei Alliance led by Brian Mundu. The two have uh agreed to work together. The details of the partnership will be made available as we discuss. But let's hear from you over this major development that has taken place. Anonymous, make your contribution.
SPEAKER_27Thank you. I just want to um you know call upon all of the people all that have been praying towards the course.
SPEAKER_66Umbaka number.
SPEAKER_27You've been consistent. You have worked so hard to make sure that the people's voices are heard. And I mean from the bottom of my heart. I also want to thank the two gentlemen today, um, Mr. Makebizulu and Honorable Munduwile, for starting this unity. You have started something that all of us have been crying for. Let's make a start and make it work. A lot of people have talked about other political parties coming together. There is uh, you know, KBF, there is um Hari Kalawa, there is also um, you know, Fred Membe, Sean Tembo, and whoever it is that has a political party. We are all Zambians and we know what we have been through. Ladies and gentlemen, let's get together. We can only stand together and remove the oppression out of this country if we form one formidable organization that's going to stand against this oppression. That's my prayer. Let's continue praying for this nation.
SPEAKER_21Thank you, Cola. Thank you very much. Hello, Cola. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and tell us your contribution.
SPEAKER_54Oh, we know we know the thank you. If you can just give me maybe uh maybe 45 seconds, yeah. I want to start with a short prayer, yeah. Then I'll conclude yeah, just by adding up a few words. Yeah.
SPEAKER_21Hello, yes, yes, ma'am, we can hear you.
SPEAKER_54Okay, thank you so much. Yeah, should we just bow our heads? Yeah, to all the listeners. Yeah, thank you, Lord, for answering our call. You have provided us with more than we could ever have imagined. You have started showing the way, and let this way, Father, be worked on even by those who seem to have lost it. We thank you, Lord, give them the guidance. Amen.
SPEAKER_21Amen. Make your contribution, my dear sister.
SPEAKER_54Yeah, but mwamba, my contribution won't be so much. This is just the beginning of everything, and uh we are so happy. I could hear from everybody, they are happy, I'm also happy. But like I have said, this is just the the beginning. Navamova Mobon Sava Shala Ava Ibeche. This prayer that I have said, I have said it on behalf of you, everybody. Ikataneni. Ikataneni tangen uchivusa. Gamlefoti, ifin's to wamina. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER_21Thank you very much. We are still taking in your cause. Let's hear your views. There's been a major development where two major political alliances have come together. Hello, colour. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution. Hello? Hello?
SPEAKER_08Hello.
SPEAKER_21Yes, make your contribution. Hello? Oh, you got cut. Okay, let's take some more calls. Hello, caller, please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contributions.
SPEAKER_47Okay, so Bakamburi, Bakimini. Makembi, or a sassone to pay a wand to a vivi, put your mood was your top. So minishair. They can what you say. If you if you say leadership, which has been given from God. So to give the Navanas, politics. Let them respect the appointment from God. Because God is the one that gives leadership. All what we are asking, unite these people, bring new ideas to Alachka Chan, to talk to Mudusha, the king to kwa do mucha witches. Not to alilawa doing a very great job, otherwise, inokulumba kwandi. It's all about unity.
SPEAKER_21Thank you very much. Hello, caller. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution. Hello, caller. Oh, this caller has a poor network. I'm so sorry. They they try to call back, try to call back. Try to call back. The the line was extremely bad. It was just hanging. Today we are discussing this development. I hope you go through. Let's see. Hello, caller. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from. Your line is so bad, my brother. So bad, so bad. Alo colour, please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contributions. Yes, Mama T, make your contribution, my dear sister.
SPEAKER_51Mkwai. And to achievement to akwatarero without your effort, you can't get to the channel. This is what we've been calling for. To say, can you please come together? So that eh, tubom bench to firokubomba paseti in August. Because the ground irifebu. So that we liberate ourselves from this slavery that we've been in for the five years of group. Awe, tuatote raw makebi, ba mundubire, the same pali. Namamarita's gonze, the same pali. Bachimba kamburi, given rubinda, to le mitote la boze mwa marita saw mitote. Tentu bombe sapamu mumwebatuba kware sari uniti fi defuyka. Apana Iranga numbama puya mone kanomba. So tentu bombe nomba, ish to tu kwete numbayak pitana nomba, muma mumishi, all say, all bats of Zambia, so that we told the people to say, if ofantu to ripamo, nature minines to fiarabis. Ah, we fiarabase winanangwa de ka. A pata ide is a cab. Thank you so much, Ramana.
SPEAKER_21Thank you very much. Allo caller, please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution. Allo, caller, please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution. Hello, caller. Hello, caller.
unknownGood evening, Ramanda.
SPEAKER_21Good evening.
SPEAKER_37Yeah, this is Msoni calling you from the circle.
unknownMr.
SPEAKER_21Msoni, your line was very bad. I hope you manage this time.
unknownYeah, I hope so. Uh quickly before we cut again.
SPEAKER_37Uh just want to uh to to appreciate the two leaders that have come together. But um uh I like the point that was raised by the master. Um, my brother, you have another device playing in the background.
SPEAKER_21Thank you. Thank you. I think your line is is is terrible, but we got what you wanted to say. Hello, caller. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution.
unknownHello.
SPEAKER_30Yes, hello.
SPEAKER_21Hello, good day. Please make your contribution. Good evening.
SPEAKER_30Okay. You're talking to Mr. Chfunda here. Mr.
SPEAKER_21Chfunda, make your contribution.
SPEAKER_30Okay, thank you. I'm just happy today that uh we have finally reached a place where we have seen unity between uh uh Mr. Mundu and uh Makebizulu. So my my my advice to to the two is that uh continue working together and may the Lord surely bless you for this decision that you have come to make for the nation. And uh last two days ago, I didn't have a chance. I heard Honorable Um Kambwili actually speak on on Macebe and uh the presidential election. I would love to advise on that in particular, saying Fiashima Kambwili should be able to support these young people now, because uh this uh this is what I believe that God wants for us at this particular time. And looking at what he has lost, I feel so sorry for him. I uh I've seen him suffer so much lately. Yeah, he has he was in jail, he lost his two brothers, he's one of the people that my heart bleeds when I when I think about what he has lost. So I believe that in this season for him is to watch because he's growing and he might be called upon later on in this life to lead Zambia. So this is the time and the test for him. It's a timely test. So let him uh act as a father shoot and support these young people who are here right now so that he can be one of the people that can be respected and even be given presidency in the future. So, Mr. Gambil, if you are listening, please lead to this advice uh because you are looked at as a father. So be among the people campaigning with these young people. Go, take them to places, take them to places you have been, you are experienced, lead them, take them by the hand, to leave awake mirange. There will be no one who will stop the the convoy that you guys will have because Zambians will rise to see that democracy stands. But if you and Gavin Lubinder stay away, it will be very difficult. This is my contribution, sir.
SPEAKER_21Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Let's take some more calls. We'll begin to wind up. That was a development we're dealing with today. Um, caller, please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution.
SPEAKER_59Hello?
SPEAKER_21Yes, caller. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from.
SPEAKER_44This is Carlos Chifi. Good evening, Ambassador.
SPEAKER_21Carlos, make your contribution, uh, ambassador.
SPEAKER_44Uh, the coming of uh Makebezul and uh uh Mundo Villa together, it's a good thing. However, the problem is this which house are they going to use?
SPEAKER_21We'll have a program tomorrow. We will have a technical program tomorrow to discuss all the parameters, but for now, let's comment on the development.
SPEAKER_44Let me not let me not really ask that question, but let me just say uh, I mean bring out my opinion over this. Mamwamba, today we are the people that are so very uh that are not really helping us. Yes, we have been crying for the united opposition, but this hatred towards Ari Kalaba, who has a very stable house, is not really helping us. It's not really helping us. We can celebrate all we want today and say, Munduvil and Kebizulu, they are working together today. But the truth of the matter is that tomorrow we are going to ask a very critical question which house are they going to use? So it's about time we stopped these jokes and rally behind somebody who has a very stable stable political party. And in this case, Harikalaba is that person that we all need to rally behind. I thank you.
SPEAKER_21Thank you, Carlos. Thank you very much. And like I'm saying, tomorrow we'll have an opportunity to discuss the the public issues around those matters and rest or attend to the anxieties. Hello, colour, please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution.
SPEAKER_34Ambassador T. That is less than in Galanda. That is nothing in the bank to Momati. Bala Pantu for Mammitulation could you move. Mona Chino, Banetti Nobekata. Let the petit channel.
SPEAKER_21Thank you, my dear. Thank you very much. Hello, Cola. Please tell us your name and where you are calling us from and make your contribution.
unknownHello, Mamwamba.
SPEAKER_21Hello, please make your contribution. But now me from Nakonde, make your contribution.
SPEAKER_52This is my first time to be connected with you. So you know from Delandako. None who cover president, none who cover vice. And if you know for Bakalanda, Lane let's try by all means to give them respect, unity, and love. Let all these things reveal.
SPEAKER_21Thank you very much. Allo Cola, please tell us your name and where you are calling us from and make your contribution.
SPEAKER_23Thank you, Ambassador Mwamba. This is Seniangwedani.
SPEAKER_21Thank you, Daniel.
SPEAKER_23Ambassador Mwamba, we need to give you uh also to give you gratitude on what you've been doing. Because on your program, you are always talking about unity. Unity. Is and on your program because of the masses that you have attracted, even the people listening, what has happened today, like the previous caller said, there is a task ahead of us, and we know what lies ahead of us. And the only way you can defeat the enemy ahead of us is with unity. Like the lady has said, as supporters, let's also try to dodge by let's like play to Kanana, ukumulati limbibari, team, amanukuchigabana. No, we are all in this together. There is a time when these people are meeting, let's give them time and chance. What we need, Bamwamba, is ukufunyei government so that we can bring sanity back in the country. Wa President Makebizulu, supporters, ngata wambela chapamo. Trust me, it is going to be easy and it will be for the benefit of all Zambians. Just like the previous caller said, wa Alikalaba, wa Fed Membe, Wa KBF. We don't have, we are not going to call each other names and everything, but let's look for the best interest of our country, Zambia. Thank you, and God bless you, Ambassador Mwamba, and God bless Zambia.
SPEAKER_21Thank you very much. Thank you.
SPEAKER_22Honorable Makebi Zulu and uh Munduvile Brian and uh PF Famosi and Tonsei Alliance have decided to come together. We want to assure the nation that this is not a marriage of convenience. We are doing it from the bottom of our hearts in response to what the Zambians have said. To inform the nation this morning, don't say the Bureau meeting the meeting of leaders where we discussed extensively regarding this particular marriage. And I know that my brother on the other side also had meetings with these people discussing this marriage. So this marriage is not necessarily between Brian Mundu and Makebizulu. All the leaders that are mentioning here and the leaders on the other side are all coming together. We are now existing as one. All the activities will now be done jointly. And to demonstrate that commitment, I know that tomorrow Honorable Makebizolu will be clearing the number the supporters in provinces. So please, Town C Alliance members, turn out in your numbers to go and give support because now we are waiting for another big event coming on Saturday. The announcement will come later. So all these events now will be able to do them as one. So mwena Zambia, tuamilum bakawicha mi tote, la mua lolela, mwa lady la ukuti. So Kashi Mukwai, Ngafila Fine, Ulanda Yonse, Ukuti, Avantuba Chula, Ichalo, Chaunaika, Chi Tualaika Dilan Sal and Sale, they low twenty minutes of Kutila, got to womb the chapamo, to pusu shape, I mean too. We se pillambalet, I come a mind black mountain, you move to a faco. We have been a time chula.
SPEAKER_21Okay, family. Today we've been discussing the major development that has occurred in our country between politically between two major political alliances, PF Pamosi Alliance, led by Honorable Make B Zulu. And Tosi Alliance led by Brad Mundwile today. They've agreed to work together and they began to do joint programs. Tomorrow, Makebi Zulu is filing in for you know is submitting uh the 1,000 supporters across the country at all provincial centers, including Lusaka, and already Brad Munduele has pledged the Council Alliance members that they should go and uh ensure that they support the candidature of Makebi Zulu, who's standing under PF Pamosi Alliance's special purpose vehicle, resolute party. A lot of you have a lot of questions. What does this mean? What happens to FDD? What happens to Resolute Party? What happens to the candidature? That is a program for another day. Today we're just discussing this major development. Let me take the last five calls and then we close.
SPEAKER_35Don't better let Zulu. Now political party, I could make sure. A political point. She can cover Papa Kempizuru, she can go to Gama. She was to get into Bush Fuller. Babu took a move, you know, but to Babu to Baka Gibb Badisom in Nogram.
SPEAKER_21Thank you. Hello, Cola, please tell us your name and where you're calling us from, and thank you for waiting.
SPEAKER_35Hello.
SPEAKER_21Yes, caller. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from, and thank you for waiting.
SPEAKER_36Senior citizen.
SPEAKER_21Senior citizen, make your contribution.
SPEAKER_36I concur with the last caller. And Samari. You can say that we are all happy about what has happened. We are fighting satanies. We are fighting masses. Every household must be prayed. I want to state once more again that our family because some people who make negative comments has been anointed by God. The timing of this coming is similar to what was happening in the Bible. Second, which doesn't marry my boy's guys. This thing has even come up by the areas. Some people are ignorant in compounds. Thank you very much.
SPEAKER_21Thank you very much. We'll be closing the program and we'll have another program tomorrow to discuss these issues. So thank you for for listening in. Today we're discussing this major development. I said I'll take the last uh uh five callers. I've taken two already. If you want to speak, you still can call. Maybe we might accommodate your call. We might accommodate your call. Thank you very much, thank you, thank you.
SPEAKER_22Brian and PF Famosi and Tonsei Alliance have decided to come together.
SPEAKER_21Yeah, looks like I've got uh a caller online. Alakola, please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution.
SPEAKER_29Dr.
SPEAKER_35K.
SPEAKER_21Dr.
SPEAKER_29K Montana.
SPEAKER_21So Montana, make your contribution, my dear brother.
SPEAKER_29This is not about the the the what has taken place in the in Zambia alone. This is about you coming to join us here in the diaspora. I think um we need to tell the truth. You have governed us together, you've brought us together, and we've worked together through your media. And uh, this is something that we lacked for some time, even in the previous elections, even in these by-elections that have taken place. This has helped us to understand uh what is needed in the our society, more so this time when they are putting in all these new laws that are very difficult for people to maneuver around. And uh we ask you, Mwamba, to continue doing what you are doing, and at the same time to uh really encourage those uh those leaders back home. Uh, since you have direct phone call line to them, encourage them to do what they've done and to go now to places that doesn't reach uh uh your media doesn't reach not because uh the diet, just because some people don't know. We need those votes everywhere. Thank you.
SPEAKER_21Thank you, Dr. K. Thank you, Dr. K from Montana. Alo Cola, please tell us your name and where you are calling us from and make your contributions.
SPEAKER_08Good evening, Ambassador Mumba.
SPEAKER_21Good evening.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, this is Mr. Muela calling from Mavonday.
SPEAKER_21Mr. Muelwa, make your contributions.
SPEAKER_07Thank you, Ambassador. Ambassador, I think we are more than happy today to see the two giants coming together. I think in everything in that mato, and in and stay unite. You see, you cannot talk about unity, but again, They are saying something against Bamundubire. They did not involve themselves for me. Otherwise, this is the unit we we are waiting for. Thank you very much, Ambassador, for your effort. And thanks everyone who has been contributing positively. Thank you.
SPEAKER_21Thank you very much. We are taking the last calls. If you really have something burning to say, please say it. Hello, Cola. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution.
unknownYes. Thank you. This is your sister again, your sister.
SPEAKER_21Yes, my dear sister. Make your contribution, my dear sister.
SPEAKER_13Yes, I just want to contribute because in the our uh MPs are Bill Seven. These people must not be adopted, they'll be very difficult to sell. They should just support, not to be adopted. Going to cost us. Thank you, my brother.
SPEAKER_21Thank you very much. Hello, colour. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your your contribution.
SPEAKER_09Uh good evening, thank you, Mamwamba.
SPEAKER_21Make your contribution quickly. Your name and where you're calling us from, and make your contribution. Okay.
SPEAKER_09I I will remain anonymous.
SPEAKER_21Um thank you, anonymous. Make your contribution.
SPEAKER_09Your paper's view of nation quite a problem. Example Pangaka. I'm a four semi. I mean following. Not to be one that shouldn't have joined another pose emotion. Unity and Panomore to let you put an option in show at your point. So unity and bokumonica can be a bandaio, unity I Sabambi. Balambaba re four, Balambokola letter problem. But as long time.
SPEAKER_21Thank you, thank you. Let me take my last call.
SPEAKER_16Thank you so much, Ambassador. This is Patrick Money, according to music.
SPEAKER_21Yes, Patrick.
SPEAKER_16This serious decision that they have made today. And then I would just love to conquer. I think there's someone who mentioned the aspect of Ukusta, like bringing on board the thing that you approach it. I'm sure the the the first day spoke on the program, there's something that came out, that the meaning he did not accept the the outcome of that result. Maybe he may have his own concerns, uh of which I would love the iron out. He also put the same issue where he said the convention because it's qualified to take a few more females, of which meaning people still have um like that thing, whereby even if they say this team they would play for America when uh side, maybe these forces that are there, remember, chances are also in touch in the hard. But if there is that thing in between them that has not been resolved yet, it will be very difficult for these parties to come forth because they have these people advising them in the background. So to think, in as much as they have taken this big step of coming together, these two these two parties, let them now go out and engage the other political factors so that together they can make something big. It will be very difficult for these guys to ring the election or to do any form of manipulation if they work together and form one formable force. Thank you so much, Waman. By the way, and I also want to appreciate you for your for your endless endless. You have been through through it all, but you have been resilient. Keep it up, sir. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER_21Thank you, thank you. I declared my last caller, but this caller has been so persistent. Let's hear him. Hello, caller. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from, and uh give us your contribution. Hello.
SPEAKER_38Hello, uh, my name is uh Monday Monday.
SPEAKER_21Make your call make your contribution.
SPEAKER_38Yes, so what I wanted to say is that um uh what we have uh received today in the news is uh very much exciting. Uh at least now we have no excuse. Uh you know, then I think the ruling party has been trying to ride on the idea that the there is no opposition and that the opposition is in all corners. But now we are glad that uh they have come together. The only caution we would want to make or give is um I think going forward, um, the honorable um Makebi and the Honorable Mondele should um you know work with people on principle. I think it's very disheartening to see those people that um were um you know entrusted with the duty to be opposition MPs, you know, joining the ruling party. Of course, we do understand that the the they have got their democratic right, but uh you see, democracy is also about uh it's not just about belonging to the ruling party, you know, it's also about being in the opposition so that you uh offer checks and balances. But what they've done is very shameful. So going forward, uh may the two uh leaders ensure that they work with people who are principled, such that whatever outcomes uh the election this year will be the people who they'll uh will be all elected uh with them, they will remain uh principled. Otherwise, thank you so much.
SPEAKER_22Okay, okay, thank you very much to assure the nation that this is not a marriage of convenience, we are doing it from the bottom of our hearts in response to what the Zambians have said. We informed the nation that this morning is the Politic Bureau meeting, this is a meeting of leaders where we discussed extensively regarding this particular marriage, and I know that my brother on the other side also had meetings with his people discussing this marriage. So, this marriage is not necessarily between Ral Munduir and Makebi Zulu. All the leaders that are mentioning here and the leaders on the other side are all coming together. We are now existing as one, all the activities will now be done jointly. And to demonstrate that commitment, I know that tomorrow uh Honorable Makebizulu will be clearing the number the supporters in provinces. So please, don't say alliance members, turn out in your numbers to go and give support because now we are waiting for another big event coming on Saturday. The announcement will come later. So all these events now will be able to do them as one. So mwemena Zambia, tuamilum baka mi tote, la mua lolela, mwale dila ukuti, gani kumpu kosu mwale tiva brand, okay katana wa makevi. Lelo makavi so kay shukwai, ga fila fine, polanda yonse, ukuti avantuba chula, e chalo, chaunaika, chinchi twalai kailand sale and sale, lelo twai mina kuti la catuom bele chapamo, tu pousu shape, imio ya avantu. Basha m fumu, mweva kumuchi, you mutua umfuako. Ba myona batata, nakulumutinta, bamakasa, nimo twa umfuako. Was students, students, basibo servant mwe chula, you m'twawn fwako. Washima le chula, you mutua mfuaco. We m se pila mouvalet pa kuki conge, nakuma mine na ku black mountain, nimo twa mfuaku, fou kula fwenu wevena zamde monte mwale chula, niu tua mfuako, wunowishku mobukankala, nganchi. Ine uyo munandi bakebizoru, kemueni wandiamandi, toalesamizana pamokulosku, nandi. Tamufilo kulasa kama na yo chala bashani uhaliwo mba popamo, to a diangala popamo, kanji is an old relationship. And this time around, my dear brother, I'm very grateful. We have a duty. The duty is to save the Zambian people. The duty is to save the Zambian people. People are suffering. I believe the way we've come together to put our forces together and be able to confront the many challenges of people.
SPEAKER_04Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you so much, Mr. President. That was the President Frank Munda Vide. We are deal thankful.