ECZ BAN ON CANDLE LIGHT

DISCUSSING THE BAN BY ECZ ON CANDLE LIGHT SYMBOL

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SPEAKER_11 0:47

And then no one can be a chest, which is a bit of a gang joy. I tell you how you want to buy this one. What is my baby? Justice for I mean, big money. What the week was that? You want to come back to the ball of the chest. I've been a chip. I'll get a baby. I'll get to the cut and get the ball at the end. Zambia Silvana, this is not the mother Zambia that we were left with. My ancestors, our forefathers who fought so hard to remark us. They fought so hard to put this country on the map. To put this country where it is today. No man will destroy this country because we believe in unity.

SPEAKER_03 5:20

From some named groupings who want to bring confusion.

SPEAKER_31 10:25

So just hold on. We'll be going. Thank you very much. Welcome to today's broadcast Sunday. I've issued a statement. I want to read it. It's a very, very strange statement. So the things we'll do today, we will go through what CZ ECZ has done, the transfers that have been done by the Zambia police. And there's a statement from a Pamoszi Alliance, issued by Secretary General Celestine Mukandila for the issues of the party. I will read those details. And the adopted candidates, because there seems to be confusion with the PPF, Pamoszi Alliance, and the Tonse Alliance coming together and deciding who the candidates are. So I'll take time to read who the officially adopted candidate are for both as approved by Bran Mundwillian Makebi Zulu. Now let's go to ECZ. ECZ have uh issued a statement. Just a minute, let me just get the statement. Thank you. Yeah, ECZ have issued a statement and they are saying clarification and standardization of candidates symbols for 2026 elections. They've written to all town clerks and council secretaries, and they are stating that this is what should be done. It says the commission is in the process of reviewing nomination papers and supporting documents received from the districts. During this process, it has been noted that one of the symbols provided in the register of symbols for independent candidates, namely the candle symbol, bears similarity to a symbol currently registered in respect of a political party. The commission remains fully committed to ensuring a transparent, fair, and orderly electoral process in line with the electoral process general regulations of 2016. As you are aware, the regulatory framework strictly requires that symbols allocated to a political party and independent candidates be entirely distinct in order to eliminate any potential voter confusion on the ballot paper. To uphold the clarity of the ballot and protect the distinct identity of every candidate, the commission is undertaking a standardization exercise in all affected areas. You are therefore required to take the following immediate actions. Number one, engage the candidate, the candidates, and uh uh uh you know uh inform them of of the of the candle symbol. So engage immediately contact any independent candidate within your jurisdiction who has been assigned the candle symbol and give them alternative selection. They are saying formally advise the affected independent candidates to select an alternative symbol from the approved register of symbols. The selected symbol must not resemble any symbol already assigned to a political party or any symbol chosen by another candidate within the district award. They've even given a deadline, the deadline or replacement uh symbol choices must formally be processed and submitted no later than Wednesday, 10th, June 2026. Default allocation. If you don't choose a symbol, the ACZ is saying the affected independent candidates that if an alternative symbol is not submitted by the stated deadline, the commission shall exercise its legal mandate to allocate a distinct symbol to facilitate the candidate's inclusion on the ballot paper without delay. This is in accordance with regulation eight, sabbatical section six of the electoral process regulations, which empowers the chief electoral officer to allocate and register a symbol for use in an election. Now everyone is saying, first of all, who is Atuanera's symbol? Are they participating in elections? Are they presidential candidates? Or is it because the lamp we light has gone countrywide like fire, especially popularized by the song? So is it that issue, the brand Mundwele Makebi ticket that they are trying to start stifle? I hold it that that's the only motivation by by um by the ECZ. It appears anyone who's who's got a candle light, the symbol will still be a lamp. And they think that inadvertently those candidates are supporting the candidature of Munduwilian Makebizunu. And this takes us to the police. In light of uh what happened in Chawama, we understand the inspector general of police Grafiel Musamba are directed following you know, this was a state machinery. They called EFZ, CCZ, and CCZ and EFZ, the Evangelical Fellowship of Zambia, and the uh the council of churches in Zambia, who were directed that they should not allow um memorial services for uh the late Zambia sixth president, uh Dr. Edgar Chagualungu. And then you saw the harsh statements from the two mother bodies who stated that their members, their pastors, their leaders, and their sanctuaries must not be used and must not be holding to any memorial for the late president. They stated that uh a memorial can only take place after the burial of a person, of course, that that's not even biblical. It was a foolish, a foolish, sorry, I'm using a very strong term, but it was a foolish uh justification because it's not supported by the Bible. In fact, there are many times we hold memorials without burial. If you look at cabinet office, uh there's a cenotaph there. We sent people to the first world war and the second world war, and we never in many cases got those that died in the war. In many cases, we just have a tomb to replace to recognize him, or the cenotaph where we recognize the people that were uh that that that were lost in the war and we don't have any body. That's a purpose. In fact, those are called places of the unknown tomb, they are the bodies, I mean the tomb of the unknown, or a cenotaph of the unknown, or symbol of the unknown. In this case, there was nothing wrong with um Edgar Lungu being commemorated even when the body hasn't been put to rest. It's just a normal process in the abnormal circumstances where President Akainde Hilem has not allowed the body of the remains of the late president to take place. So after that, we saw provincial fellowships being called by the Commissioner of Police that no such service must take place. So we are not surprised that the Chawama officer in charge, Superintendent Francis Musonda Mulundu, was immediately removed after the memorial took place and after uh that famous drive-in, drive show. It happened like a drive show because there were so many people that came that Makebi and um and uh Munduwile decided to stand to sit on top of the car as they were driving out of Chiawama. And the Inspector General of Police is calling that an illegal procession, and he accuses the officer in charge of failing to uh stop both the memorial and the so-called illegal procession that took place. After that, the inspector general of police has done the following. He has issued communication number 3263. This is a police number for Mr. Mulundu Musonda Francis, superintendent and officer in charge of police station Chawama, has been transferred to Western headquarters and for redeployment. You know what they do in the civil service? If they want to punish you, kuku to Makwakaputa, kuku to makalabo, kuku to makulundazi, they've done the same. So they've assigned uh officer in charge for Chawama, Mr. Malun Drumsounder Francis, superintendent to West End Division, and you'll not be surprised if they take him to the feathers like Shangombo and uh Lukulu or Kalabo Sing Skongo. They do that to frustrate public officers. They've taken Mr. Kapampi Filimon, who was assistant superintendent and officer in charge for Matendere Police Station, is been transferred to Man Chawamo Police Station and he has been appointed officer in charge. In fact, the officer in charge for Chawama is usually this agreed one police station looking at the population and uh the police post that it covers, like even Katampi Filimon has actually even been promoted because such a post, such a police station is manned by a superintendent. Then that is officer uh police number 3503, Katampi Filimon, assistant superintendent from officer in charge of Tendere, has been taken to uh Chawama. Police number 3669, Miss Mubita Etambuyu, assistant superintendent and deputy officer in charge of Chawama Police Station, Lusaka Division, has been transferred to Lusaka headquarters under operations. So you can see that from Chawama Police, where they didn't stop the church service, something which is totally illegal. They've transferred both Mulundu Musonda Francis and Muvita Etambuyu. The two officers, officer in charge and deputy officer in charge, have been removed from um from uh uh chawama police station. Then you have uh police number 3169, Mr. Musoloko To Humphrey, Assistant Superintendent, police intelligence in charge of Chawama Police Station, Lusaka Division has also been transferred to Lusaka Division Intelligence Operations. They've dismantled the entire leadership of Chawama. They've removed Francis Muson Damulun, who was officer in charge, they've removed the deputy. Buyu Mubita, they've removed the Chief Inspector Malipenga Leonard, who was in charge of police intelligence. So the top hierarchy from the police have been removed. Then police number 10494, Chief Inspector Mlemua Mukono of Lusaka Police Intelligence has been transferred to Chawama Police Station and has been appointed as in charge police intelligence in place of Mr. Musolokoto Humphrey, Assistant Superintendent. Police Officer Number 3157, Mr. Kayuala Kaywala, Assistant Superintendent. Lusaka Division Headquarters operation has been transferred to Mtendere Police Station and appointed officer in charge. Remember, this is to replace Katampi Filimon, who they've taken to Chawama. Then Detective Chief Inspector Chombela Lilian, Deputy Officer in Charge, Police Intelligence section of police, has also been transferred away. So the entire leadership at Chawama Police Station has been removed by the command. And she's been taken to paramilitary battalion headquarters, police intelligence. Police number 16708, Detective Inspector Belemu Edward of Lusaka Division Headquarters, Police Intelligence Section, has been transferred to Chawama Police Station and appointed as deputy officer in charge, police intelligence, in place of Chief Inspector Chombela Lilian. Those are the dramatic changes because they wanted the police not to allow the memorial for Edgar Lungu to take place the way the other places were banned because we saw that the provincial fellowship churches that were organizing the memorial for the late president were accorded by provincial police commissioners that they had 10 instructions that they should not hold any of those services for the late president. And for Chawama, what annoyed them is simply especially the that the memorial took place. Of course, they are trying to say the violence took place instead of just arresting the UPND that caused the violence. It's just UPND that caused the violence. And you know, um the IG has come very hard on them. This is what happened in Chihuahua. Those are the two items we are discussing. And uh the police action. But see the police action in um in um Mazabuka, where there's been extensive violence against um our dear brother Garin Kombo. They've they've they've allowed the police uh leadership to be in place. It's like that's a standard. You need to oppress, repress, punish the opposition. If you are lukewarm, if you don't move in, you act civil, you act within the law. You act within the laws that you are taught as a police officer, they'll punish you. Inspector General of Police wants a brutal force of the police that should give no room to the opposition. Uh they will not understand. As you saw, Garin Kombo explained that uh he had collaborated with the Socialist Party and they were going to have a joint rally where the EU was going to launch his candlelight campaigns. But the police would have none of that, and they stopped and even tear gassed Garin Kombo's supporters.

SPEAKER_19 29:13

I've no idea. No, I want to say I've no idea. The reason why we are stopping is Pomose Alliance.

SPEAKER_31 29:30

You know, there have been issues, um internal issues that they are taking long to jail together. And um this, especially in line of uh candidates where they are dual candidates, and the leadership have been edged to uh to deal with this matter decisively. Celestine Mukandila and Zuman Zimba, who are the two Secretary General from Tonsey Alliance and Pamoszi, to resolve this issue. Where is the problem? You have adopted candidates that were jointly agreed on. So, what is the problem of removing those that were not approved? Where is the challenge? Uh Celestine Mukandila has issued um a statement to all PF Pamos Alliance members reminding them that the presidential candidate for um PF Pomose Alliance is now a running mate to the Tonse PF Pomose Alliance, the joint alliance, and that all those that were working for the party for uh for the candidate or and the running mate of um Makebizulu must immediately work together across all provinces, district, and wards must together form one joint campaign team between the Tonse Alliance candidature and that of uh Pamosi Alliance candidature. So, for example, Osaka and Copper Belt as resolute party candidates. The resolute party candidates must embrace a Tonse Alliance uh infrastructure and begin to campaign together, collaborate, ensure that the party structures are working together. That's a summary of the instruction from Celestine Mukandila that look, we are working as one, so therefore the national provincial district and constituents ward and branch levels must all work together. And um the party has adopted so many candidates across the country. Um we have to find mechanism of reading this officialist so that we put pressure on those candidates that were not um, there are candidates that are on this party but were not officially adopted, and there are candidates on this party that were not officially adopted. So between an NRRP, UP and Resolute Party, you have candidates that are uh in some places, you know, uh some parts of Eastern Province, Copper Belt, Northern Province, you have two candidates. I think the instructions are very clear. The adopted list of candidates is what must be guided. And the non-official candidates are encouraged to withdraw because you are creating unnecession, unnecessary uh political division in your area, and now you are forming uh uh tensions for clashes when it's totally not necessary. The leadership of both Tonse and Pamoszi issued the candidates that were approved. Um let's start with the mayors, where the the the two parties featured candidate. In Kaoma is Stephen Makinishi, in Limulunga is Wataye Yeta, in Luampa is Kamuti Kamwengo. In uh Lukulu is Oliver Mundania, in Mitete is Ngenda Joseph, in Mongu is Lishevo Mwenda, in Mwandi is Palos Masiku, Nalolo is Kopo Imutowana, in Senanga is Mumbe Hakoma, in Sesheke is Henry Hulawa Mazungu. In Shangombo is Poniso Kuyumbana. These are the official mayoral candidates. For Northwestern Province in Soloesi District is Adrian Kapumba. In Kalumbila is Evelin Banda, in Munilunga is Musea Benson, in Ikelenge is Joano Muvumanga, in Kasempa is Ernos Kalele, in Mufumbe is Reverend Melna Katoyo, in Maninga is Geoffrey Malaiti. In Zambezi is Kasupa Kayawe, in Chavuma is Kasoko Kanji Kenneth. On the Copper Belt, the official candidates, Chirilabombo constituency is Roingosa, Kongola constituency is Spolianis Mwanda. In Chingola Central, or these are candidates, I think these are MP candidates for Copper Belt. So Chirilabombo is Roingosa. Kongola constituencies Spolianis Mwanda. Chingola Central constituencies Michelle Piri Kazala. Chingola West constituencies Boris Temba Chanza. Nchanga constituencies Rosemary Chipoya. Muflira constituencies Dr. Alex Luando. Kankoyo constituencies Mwango Chisala. Kalulushi constituencies Bernard Vesa. Now Kantachi constituencies showing people two people, PS Chandakawe and Dr. Rodney Kanwa. I'll call Celestine to clarify. Chambishi is Modesta Kawe. Lufanyama constituency is Christopher Kalenge. Lufanyama East constituency is Moses Chinyuka. Kwacha constituency is Dr. Brown Chirambo. Nkana constituencies Alexander Chiteme. Uzakile constituency is Kalowopa Vuma. Kampinsa constituency is Kelvin Chipili. Chimwemwe constituents is Mwenya Musenge. Honorable Mwenya Musrenge. Luancha constituents is Engineer Gordon Mlenga. Ron constituencies Nathan Chanda. Ndola Central constituencies Honorable Emmanuel Mlenga. Kawush constituencies Fabian Mwanza. Chifubu constituencies Frankie Nambi. Dagahama Shot constituencies Ezra Tembo. Buanamkuba constituencies Sam Chiti. Masaiti constituencies Rose Chumpuka. Rose Chumpuka from ZMBC. Ah, well done, my dear sister. I didn't know you are standing. Congratulations. Work hard. That constituency has always wanted you, and I hope that uh you find time to campaign hard and the people of Masaiti must uh vote for you, Rose Chumpuka from ZNBC. Um Kaflafta constituency Jeff Mlewa, the former independent candidate now is standing uh on the Tonsei Pamosi Alliance. Kalangawo constituency welcome wembia mpongue waste constituency Keith Maila. The mayors for uh for these towns, the mayors is Jen Daka for Chilabombe Chingola, Charles Msonda, Muflira Umbachilufia, Kalulushi Wuson Kasenge, Kitwe Collins Chansa, Luansha Mulenga Chakuria, Lufwanyama Kangwa Muila, Masahiti Joaki Mulemuna, Ndola Kaliati Jones, Mpongue Edward Chaseva. So what we'll do if you have any any query about any of the candidates, I have the entire list. There are over two 226 candidates on that list. We can't read all of it, but we'll be guiding you, especially where there are controversies, we'll read the official list of candidates that was adopted by both uh uh Honorable Bran Mundwile and Makebizulu to his attention and to isolate those that are imposing themselves away from the official list. And it's a couple by many leaders that uh Mr. Celestine Mukandila and Mr. Zuman Zimba must resolve this issue quickly to avoid internal and continued fight. Um we'll be opening the phone lines if you have any questions, any query on the issues that we are discussing today. We are discussing Is decision to ban uh the light and candlelight symbol, and they want candidates to replace this. They think that this is uh helping helping the Makebizulu. Uh, you know. Yes, indeed. I was supposed to, someone has uh written me about uh Makebizulu being in in Choma today, where we saw pictures of him with Cornelius Mwetwa, the incumbent MP in that area. They all went to the funeral of our dear brother uh uh MCC Kebewe. Kebim Bewe uh lost his father and they were putting him to rest today. We saw the emotional scenes um uh in uh in Kebimbewe and a bereaved family. They were all touched by this loss, and uh Mr. Mr. Mbewe Sr. was put to rest today. Uh and it was good to see both UPND and the opposition um uh uh be together peacefully and mourn in peace together. That I think was very, very good. Uh I can see calls are already beginning. In fact, yes, yes, we should open the phone line soon. Let me just uh let me just switch on the other phone. Hello, caller. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from.

SPEAKER_12 40:23

Okay, all right. Uh this is MK.

SPEAKER_31 40:26

Yes, MK.

SPEAKER_07 40:27

Make your contribution calling you from uh Vidal. Yeah, but let me just let me just switch off the other line. I think I can get an yes, feedback.

SPEAKER_31 40:40

Feedback. You are you are using another device to listen to me. Usually people use um all right, okay.

SPEAKER_07 40:48

Um I'll read you my message regarding the cancellation. Is it the cancellation of elections in campaigns in uh Mazabuka?

SPEAKER_31 40:58

Yes, yes, they they cancelled um undisrupted the official uh flagging off of the campaign by Gary N Combo.

SPEAKER_07 41:10

Yeah, because this is where we are as a country now. You know, we've always been talking about the fear that the UPND has and uh what it can cost this country. You know, I've I've actually shared with you on your inbox, but I'll read through. Um, I've said this is the testing of the waters, a timely warning to all Zambians ahead of this year's elections. I won't read the whole lot of it, but uh, what I want to just tell the people who are listening here is that let's caution the police. They have no right whatsoever to cancel any elections, they work on directives from ECZ. So, what was supposed to happen was that ECZ would have communicated with the Galling Combo um campaign management or whatever they call themselves, and everyone else involved in Mazabuka, and then the police will just uh carry out their duty because the the only duty that uh the police has, let's not confuse ourselves or actually be um blinded by this government, the police's uh laws or or should I say the area of operation is only in maintaining peace and order, nothing else that involves them in cancellations or anything of such in any elections. So we are seeing how this government is so desperate. First, they have cancelled this election, uh the campaigns in Mazabuka, and now they are releasing uh a press uh regarding the symbol. So we just need them to tell us which political party has is registered with the candle as its uh symbol. We've never been told to say there is this political party with such such a name and using the candle as a symbol. So these are all all happenings that we are really concerned about, and um I'm sure if they can do that to uh an MP, an independent MP for that matter, what will they do to a presidential opposition? This has actually scared a lot of us, and we hope and trust that the people of Zambia shall speak, the people of Zambia shall demand for their rights, because this election has already shown his apathy. Because as I'm talking to you, I've never seen any vehicles uh moving around campaigning freely. No, just uh are you there on ambassador?

SPEAKER_31 44:00

Are you my brother?

SPEAKER_07 44:01

Okay. Uh uh to add on what has happened in Mazabuka, we again have an incident where the former mayor of Kahwe is in hiding as we speak. He ran into the bush. So, what kind of a government that is so scared that they are unleashing their cutters now on their opposition or on their opposition members who are campaigning? Is this the freedom that the people were told? Is this the peace that we've been blindfolded all this time that no the country is experiencing the peace? So I think we need to ask and demand for a level playing field for all uh candidates, regardless of uh of uh a political part they belong to or an independent. So I think that's what I can contribute to, but um maybe you can read in full what I've shared with you regarding what I've written on this topic in Mazabuka. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_31 45:03

Thank you very much. I'll look at it, Gen Z spokesperson MK. Uh we'll read your document. Let's see. Tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution.

SPEAKER_26 45:21

Good evening, my ambassador.

SPEAKER_31 45:23

Good evening.

SPEAKER_26 45:32

Ambassador, this election is not just like any other election. This election is very, very strong. I have information that uh those who think uh this is just a story, Rapa Struth. Let them find out, those who have the collection, let them find out if those 4,000 people who are killed, who have been killed by the ministry are these people have been dispatched by uh processing in a full uniform of UK. Same applies to the police which were recruited. If they have not been dispatched, they will be dispatched, but in a uniform of UK. So uh we see a lot of violence and uh things which have been happening, the happening of Garin Kongway today is just a question of what is going to happen. Ambassador, allow me to say that some months before this day or today, we saw this government dispatching army and most especially the commandos, especially the special uh force going around and trying to manage the issues to do with the call. That was not goal. They were sending a signal to the community that uh come down if anything these people bounce with. Well, Ambassador, we have seen the police there being uh celebrated in the compound. So when you look at all this happening, they have been trying the police command, the army command, and the ZNS, they have been trying to communicate to the people that the movement must be held. This is what is uh uh happened through these uniforms. So to the opposition and general happening. The news or the news encouragement is that uh there's no bigger act than many people have considered to hold out, they were telling you that they're saying that there's no opposition. But the people are saying, no, no, we don't care, we don't care about the name. But they forget the opposition. No matter what happened, whether they missed them, whether they are missing, all these people are just the vote voting for a crowd, like this every day, people will still go and vote for a problem. So this is to make sure that uh goes to the opposition, they should do very clear people alone. And other two people are going back to these uh party now which is our people. But we are not going there again, we are going there to um as far because nothing okay. So let me be very careful with the people who are coming around in those of the leadership this time around. Um and lastly, I guess I just remember this one. It's truly this information. Uh I don't know whether whether whether I'm pushing you against the war, but uh I'm uh there are the news going around that the window is now to uh clearly as we join Ukraine.

SPEAKER_31 49:36

Thank you very much. I saw the news on Honorable Given Lovinda. I think I don't think honorable given window can go quietly if you were to go, it would be a huge, big official announcement. And all the announcement about uh given winda is coming from the UPND carders, it's not coming from honorable given window, so we should treat that as just rumors. I think honorable window is a very senior man in our country. He there's a manner in which he does his politics. So for me, I've dismissed those assertions. Hello, caller. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution. Oh, the caller is gone. You can call back. You can call back and make your contribution. I've seen a disturbing video from Cowwe. There was some form of violence, and we understand that uh the candidate for the opposition is in hiding and we attacked by UPND. Those are the scenes from Kawe very disturbing, where we can see that uh uh our people are preparing themselves, picking stones to defend themselves, and they're asking where is the police? Do they want to find dead bodies for them to act? And it's a genuine, genuine question by anyone, and that question by by the citizens in Kabwe. Um, these are the scenes we've seen across the country, and we have seen that the police are not acting. These scenes are extremely regrettable. Now, I told you about the demise of um uh uh MCC K Bimbewe's um father. Um there is another death that has uh gripped the country with shock, and this is the death of um Judge Kavalata, the retired judge may so rest in peace. What's tragic about this death is that he was at the same time in hospital with his daughter, who died two weeks ago and was put to rest um on uh 27th um May. Just the other week, the daughter who was a resident magistrate one time, I think, in Livingstone, Leia should have been a resident magistrate in Livingstone. Um she's the one that was put to rest first, and then today we had the news that Judge Kawalata, the retired eye code judge, had passed on. So may he so rest in eternal peace.

SPEAKER_05 54:53

We went to Parliament to legislate against reckless borrowing. There's the law there. Quick idea. Many people didn't pay attention to it because the debt was acquired through recklessness. A ministry could acquire debt? Minister of Finance is not away. How can you run a country like that? How? So me, I'm listening. When people say no, they are coming back. I said to do what? To occasion more damage? So we can spend three years waiting on the debt restructure again? The little things we've done in these four years and nine months, we spent three years on debt restructuring. Imagine if we came in after the Balance was cleaned up in 2011. Today this country would have been in a totally different place. We lost ten years after 2011. Totally lost it. And now the colleagues want to come back to do what? You can change the name plate. That you are now a different creature. You are the same. You can change the name, you can change the twisted color. You are the same. This is not a job. I'm serious. My heart please, I hope your heart pleats. It's scary that we can bring back damage to our country, which took us three years to unwind. We have relatives, yes. We love them. We have nephews, cousins, we love them. But we love the 21 million Zambians more than a small group. So today we sign into law the education, pre-education bill, it's law. As you saw me signing, it's now law. Take your child.

SPEAKER_26 57:30

Ambassador, I'm very quickly neighborhood. I just want to ask you to give the public mainly the voters. That's not long ago, I think about two or three years, there was an incident in uh in Bangladesh. Where people marched to the house. There was a single president there. There's a great hand and the great police. The wheel of people's always checked for and they managed, they went and they were fine, the fine fight, they were even drinking with the wheat and battling with jacks by the president. Sounds this change, this voice should bring about change, or we should bring change. Because trust me, whatever she's doing right now, is sitting on one side, you have the same harap. But now this man has derived, he has not no power, he has not secured the seat. And the people are with the power, the seat is used. We should be sure the people should be voted out, otherwise, we never be certain.

SPEAKER_31 58:59

Thank you, thank you, thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, today we are discussing three major issues. The decision by ECZ to ban the candle light uh as a symbol for independent candidates. They've ordered that these candidates remove the symbols of um of uh of a candle or candlelight, and they claim that this candlelight belongs to uh to a political party. But we know, you know, the UPND is being accused of being a satanic movement. There are all these allegations against them, especially in the manner they've dealt with the demise of the late president, the remains of the late president conducting illegal postporum on the late president. People are calling them a satanic movement, and it appears they don't want the light. Secondly, the lampy for Bran Mundwile Makebizulu seems to have taken the country by storm and popularized by song. And it appears that all those candidates who are independents are and are on the lamp are being accused of supporting the candidate of Bran Mundwile and Make Bizulu. So they are being told to drop that. Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:34

Um yes, um, it's like the way they are they are doing it uh who cannot even understand this uh this type of treats that they have they are doing. They are changing compost every day. They are doing it because they really want uh they really want uh masapuka. They know that the candle like symbol for the book in Congo is spreading like fire, so they know already that everything is going to choose some of the number of votes from Masabuka, which which will be a determinant uh place for the for the UPND. And uh it's very unfortunate that the uh this is these institutions are being pushed around like uh horns by the UPND. It's very unfortunate to to to be in a situation uh where Zambia is at the moment headed by the HM. Um the other thing I would want I wanted to talk about is the the police who have been transferred like from Shawama and other places because of the violence by the UPND. It's very unfortunate in our country to to be experiencing this kind of thing from they know already that uh uh in fact up the UPND, the president himself is the one who is causing all those things and is imbalancing even the innocent UPND in the party because the the the things which are happening at the moment is very unfortunate. It's very unfortunate that we are in this situation. That's the the thing I wanted to talk about. It's very it's a sad it's a sad moment for our country.

SPEAKER_31 1:02:53

Thank you very much. Thank you, thank you.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:55

Thank you, thank you, thank you very much.

SPEAKER_31 1:03:01

So, yeah, those are the issues we are discussing. The ECZ and then the transfer by the police of the entire Chawamma command because they are accused of uh you know allowing the memorial by for the late president at Chawama Regina Passis uh uh uh parish church in Chawama and the violence that ensued, instead of just arresting the UPND that caused the violence, they've decided the police commanders decided to punish the police officers who manned Chawama. They've removed um all the top uh four police officers, they've removed Francis Musonda Mulundu, Supreetent, who was officer in charge. Um they've removed Etambuyu Movita, who was assistant superintendent, they've moved uh um uh Humphrey Musolo Koto. Uh and they've removed um uh Inspector Maripenga Leonard. I can see we have a caller. Yes, caller, please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:21

Thank you, Ambassador Mamba. Uh in the name is Nangwe Danny.

SPEAKER_31 1:04:28

Yes, Musa Sinyangwe.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:31

Thank you. Uh now we should Ambassador Nabantu Monsabale. Uh, the vote that we are going to cast uh, and every Zamia is going to cast him. Whether Baka Bike Poofia, a stone or not a stone. People have made up their mind. And whatever ECZ is trying to do, it is just making things worse for the government. You can't go on intimidating the people like they are your own keto's, the one you keep at your farm. We are human beings. And as human beings, you need to treat us with respect. Ambassador Mwamba God has um used you in so many various positions, and your call was to save the people, not you yourself. So it reminds me of when someone has got nothing to offer, they want to install fear. But the people of Zambia have made up their mind, Ambassador Mwamba. Nothing that they would do to intimidate us. Secondly, remember one thing that made people vote for the president to use the kind president, it was a vote of sympathy. That incident Eastern Province Pair port, that incident really captured people's minds, and people were upset to say, no, you can't be doing this to this person. And then you find that even many TF supporters, because of that incident, ended up voting for him, and he's a president who voted. Out of sympathy, not because people loved him. He tried so many times, he could not get the vote, but people voted for him out of sympathy. So they're doing the same thing that put them into power and they're trying to use it, but they're forgetting that Avantu. They have made up their mind. So Zambians, video dance on Lungo. What have they done? You want us, they want us to take us back. You play that video, and it will remind him. Show us what you've done apart from those broken toilets in uh Chimuemwe and Kwacha. I submit Ambassador Mwamba. God bless Zambia and let us continue praying for a good Zambia. Thank you, Ambassador Mwamba.

SPEAKER_31 1:06:48

Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Leski, we are still taking your cause. And um let's hear from you. Thank you very much. I was looking for the picture for Gary Combo holding uh a candle, and I've seen that uh uh the NRPOP my dear brother Alaska Mangas issued a statement to condemn the SS decision to bar these candidates. I mean to bar the candlelight as a symbol. Issued a statement to bar as a symbol is uh please go back, go back sometimes just network. Please go back and look for this picture that uh with Karen Combo with candlelight put it here on the screen as you as you call a good picture. Why is SZ burning this picture? Why is SZ a very good picture You know when they say state institutions uh oh um good hello colour, please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution.

SPEAKER_14 1:08:42

This is precious enough better from Livingstone.

SPEAKER_31 1:08:45

Yes, my dear sister.

SPEAKER_14 1:08:48

Yes, uh want to contribute on the Lagarin Kombo and also on those uh officers who was fired. I don't know if it were fired or they just uh they just uh moved their positions. So uh I start with Bagarin Kombo. Oh, Honorable Manu Mamba, me, what I've seen with YUPND, what they are trying to do right now, their Mingalato, is to make sure that they want to ban each and everyone so that people they don't do their politics like the way they used to do in previous governments. Even that light that they are banning, it's not like maybe they are tagging Wagari Kumbo. This time I think people should open your mind and open your eyes to see that the mingal that they are playing. It's not like indeed this fight between Wagari Kumbo and the government of UPND is a genuine one. Mark my word, one day you are going to believe me. What they are trying to do right now, they are tagging Wamakebisura Bamunurine because our symbol is lumpy. So they are tagging these people so that they cannot uh use that lamp. But they are wasting their time because this time we we know their drama. So right now they are trying to draw attention so that everyone in opposition they can pay attention and believe that indeed Bagari Kombo is being mistreated. One day of honor who are going to believe me that what I'm saying is a truth. What I'm urging you people of Zambia, let us go for cast on Wabran Mudubin and Wamakepisuru. Don't mind whatever is happening in UPNT. Please, I beg you in God's name. Remember what Kodelas Mukato meeting. This year Mingarato is going to be unique. You can see even what he did today. When they I'm not condemning that they were not supposed to meet Muthino. No, I'm not condemning that. But why should we just detect Mamakebizu? That is another Mingarato to make the people of Zambia and the whole world believe that indeed the ruling party and the opposition they are united. Indeed, there is democracy, even when there is no democracy. But Codelias Moto is not a person who can who you can trust. No. You remember he told the nation that we went to work with Kishimba Kambu to bring Edgaro down. He also said, I'm one of the people who brought disunity in patriotic France. Is that the man you can allow Bamakebisulu to come near him? People of Zambia, some of us want to be honest. Even if you keep on doubting me, what I talked about gussing, and today you can see, did you see them arresting the gas as nothing? Even now, I'm telling you, let's forecast on supporting Babran Mondumini and Wamake Bizulu. Forget about whatever they are fighting. Please, Papa guys go.

SPEAKER_31 1:11:40

Thank you very much. We have uh now the lines are picking up. Uh alocola, please tell us your name and where you are calling us from and make your contribution.

SPEAKER_10 1:11:51

Thank you very much, my brother. That's a worse abusing. We continue thanking you for the excellent work you are doing. It's interesting, what you are doing, and I continue aiding you, my brother. Please may God continue giving you strength to manage this problem and giving us this opportunity. Let me I want to touch on all the three things. Let me start with getting if what is happening is how they're province there. It's very interesting. You know, even juju, there's a time when it expires. And that's what is happening in Southern Province. Southern Province, my brother Ambassador Monowamba is no longer the same. And the guardian combo must be held with two hands by the opposition. He must hold that man of two hands in position. He was scheduled to launch a campaign today. And his only people, HH sent police officers to go and dear gas his own people. My friend, I come for the province. I know what that means. And those people were running away, they said because you have their gas, we are going to vote for Bonavirus. So the opposition, if they put the acts properly, they will get a substantial amount of votes in Southern Province. Because the power, Ambassador Emmanuel Mwamba, only brings up your two colors. This is what we must be watching, even with the opposition. That's what power does. So this power that has has brought out his two colors, what is doing now. Say this person's two colors are this. So that's what's happened to other people. Then I come to the issue of police officers in Chawama. Police officers, and you know, Glass Musamba, this is the general police. He was working in the colonial days, he under the colonial masters. Those police officers you are shifting anyhow. They are human beings and they have six services. They can judge and they can tell. You'll be shifting them here and there. They are seeing what's happening. Andy, you find that in fact, these civil servants, I feel pity for them. Because if you see the desperation and covert civil servants are going through under this government, I've never seen it. I have never seen it. So desperate you find a civil servant asking you, Emmanuel Muhammad, for 10 covers. You can be a traffic officer for 100. This is it's pathetic. I don't know what's happening. You are busy transferring people and repressing people who know nothing. That is why service delivery has failed. Service delivery has completely failed in this government because they are not following people through the ranks. They are PF. Then a person just asks something else, is PF fire. You replace them by people who know nothing. Whatever happened in Chawama was by UPND. We saw it. Are the ones who started the attacking, and this is how it was during PF. They start fight, and then when they are warrupted, they remove victims.

SPEAKER_31 1:16:18

I'm listening to you, my brother.

SPEAKER_10 1:16:21

Then lastly, the issue of the ECZ and symbols. You did the nomination. After doing the nomination, you approved everything, and at the last minute, Mamba Temu Rapid. On the people of those symbols were approved. And the McDonald's, you tell them that I've mentioned them. No one will talk about him. But he ended dying in exile like a destitute. We all know the end of dictators. There is an end to everything. You will try to do this and this, but we want to tell you that the day a monkey is deemed to die, all the trees become slippery. Maya, please continue providing us this platform.

SPEAKER_31 1:17:54

Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Hello, Cola. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:03

Good evening, Ambassador. Ambassador Naramba Kwaninda Bari wa Dali N Kong. Ambassador Apo Tuskiria Vena Zambia wariamano. Why you for Kanye Kendo? Kendo Uoto. So Wagariin Kongo Iria Why Sharif from UPNG. Automatically waiting Kongo Southern Province. Wakari N Congo wakwite kendoli right. Wa pa PF famos Tonse Alliance Wakwe Rampion Seri light. So Awantu automatically. Vari stana indosis wa president wakebsuru na wa munduvire. Nomba ba salven proba waka inde. Mwali shwung pampami na wakwa. Takariwe nawal ton tonka nya sana. So yeah unity apatari pali wa garin kombo. Na wamakeb zuru. Yeah spiritually a kwafe abantuave nekum wanafet karin kombo asara kendo. Which means president tuleana ne lambi. So e yawarefuwa wa bakfia nyawantu. E bakfia nyavantu kloxavin province because campaign yasa ilanga automat kikwati. Mp ni li ni kendo. President i di rambi. Outside constituency yaba gardium kombo. Na wambi fiava i karakumbi. Automat campani le sa ilanga. So strategy aba e chi. Kubo fianwa is e tpa kwa chwasi dis epu abandu. So apai donjinova garin kombo. Nga chakova chsimbo wakasara kenga connecte na iphone, apopo y shivu de rode numba koyena zambia chashu pawaka wurefe maches numba. Ybaka yike ponaye nga wakabaka. Yananguraikaze na ray, waka wurepoye mosimbo. Komunina yananga wakabaka. So ambassad touchinaralandakoena femma opposition wonsefi. Katkose na Zambia Bamgyoko tuwa fwaku. Ambassadamakwa tana bawa forma meava pakabu mwa tu mireku. Mumpang Bachi vengirira. Pafodi, bamirondu na positu pakabu si mava you to batisan fiungo tira mufiongo. Mama elections. So for my opposition katuika repansi tumole ko tu pange kwavantuavi yava lava ku security kupangechu. Security kuwawi. Tukwa teko intelligence ritua kwati, ravaly panga yamapangi, because krukoway pangi rama panga, kuriavan tama kwachu ba twishha, umbari mori wavantuku twishha tavari kwatu kovinga tumina foniu kwebati mari ni mamapangi van kwatiri nya. So katuika pang shit panga system we mumu katiya mu kamea kwati. Navarava n so to ching kuchinku la kuya system we asia kwa tibane ukuchirifi, because navena zam job of tiria, baku chinja. Navaravina baku pii din avena. Wali diakufi, ifia lasty, when diakofi fi a lasti. That's why faliya, but you neva chinja manuali for maria kwin pia sh vote emuva kabika. So, if we toopi opposition to quite nmana nesu. Ama kuyu pii dinfo totoshabu timo taba sho piki ukaum bofu na toaray ba amapanyba kwitamiva quite. Zamja neva kosha kumka nyepo ka fama siku mama. Kweva twa mi na bakata. Ambassata by election uria poli su was minishu kweva tifatu se defendiamai elections. Beiva, na kanbi musesia. A kedinu yun aena wa musesia. Bati nishnifintufiari mone kafina pa wu tatutu kwevati. Wa yu PNG katas, vari woma kubantu, le ruba wika kwatiba pf katas. Nakun tungu shishiosunde rumbako, ve pangana miste ki ya kulita kwa mamufaru, weakaku, bati kanyefe, wansenaba pra ba ba ba pra kapu, weviava nabo ba e taking na fifrafina ba takingama chinzi, winu wino no wusaka musaka, na mu namu sakaka kuchituwarwa. Tu ingira muma mumalika yanama we sutia kuwa store munekangaba police nawi. Titua ingira mutrap, batuwa fumemuwa wantu bebashare nama mufaru. Ufatufelefiak fuarafi. Tubekufe fiakwara gibule bikafiatubale, won se mwaba securi stora fuara white ni shinka mayen, wataking akotuma, shitua white, kaliwa mkatoin to mgru shoa kutuwa bru, fina kubanganak chu, wakwa mkesenamufara so. Kali mwamenishamaen, no poseli so ra mwana parika bru, wai smu kova to parapari security arampera kosai. If if ya marikaya, if pose pa pansi, twi kataro tumbe nokfunda, neus muso sala t twenty repamuna vena zambia, tu iba asaija wena zambia, neba kwete voti, numba yfunga tu mangko kurona baba nutke samamura ama voti, because if if yungware panga, bare statist, nga chakwati ikesa vem ikesa wumbbayate ya kuta, ngamaku shiongo. So to making a shu kwevati paramakuwa tu nefu shekwe ifyungwefoture, to sora tua twa sora tuwa fumaku. Elio bakari nkumbo le salem sunga mwisakamana sam. Uko mwa fumakutari, naangubakanyo rurubuto, abena zambia wonse varinaimba kariin kombiam, abena soutin province, varinaimu. Simbue di onseo mukasara, abantu waka yi sapo ya nagubakanya yo, tapayoko fi ngaya, ukuli kwansi. A wiseba ambassadya ifuma putufkiri. Katu mwanafe, ishira tuara chitamo protecta myrections. Rafina ba ambassad, murando kwacha my election biging. Tede a kuvota. So na papiene fififi lefiongwana itse party of reaking. So, nfoka tu kwa ten change to miokuma security. Usha ba wantu ifware isa firabatire attaki ba nundu. What is our approach? U shirabaref mokchwakatekavesu, na munchira, babatumi nama kata's next. Yeah, what is the approach? Ushama president, bo kwenda sh, avena Zambia, wa isarapokwewacha babantubari anumbakatu protecting tungrushi. U kwambi a pama yum pizikuma cancela z wonsawa emoko mtenja, katwika repinishi tumonofotu protecte abantu. Because natuwachtakon teni ishta campaign. Na te ako vota tapari ofakata. Nomaga tu hamboku bastaya, kuba pera ma green light ya kupanja kufion ish to reva focusta ligia myrection. So forkatuika re punish tumone futuara chight, but not physical. Tabasho piroko batando, batuika nefunish to kata communication ni moine to nawa bak security with parifiers making a suwa, security system countrywide, wave connected, um whatsapwama shan pakovati. Message in the fast wangwangu kunga kwangfu kiash nishava me kutuba mariash. Vengi we na baktu shibishaku kovati. Ufwe nefare purana, wangwangtu a shovu twa mfunefabaran echi ifia panumba to be open musi tum pakwavati, to re pokere wangu, a mari poti, uba neo suabare changeshako, pantu te won sava to patana, brave neba yu pnji, mwiva patasana, muamuka tuliba yu pnji, mwina muena wantu isunumba teba fumeko pantu kutiba be piam. So fina fina kutiwa kona spy intelligence to a pere environment isume akochi. But it tuba kufin to file chika, to be ava changera. Ama overma boti ifwe the filefuya ka muriaya, ama election, nama maskionse, the filefuyqua. Katubomfia manu be naba bomfia maka. Napper ambassador.

SPEAKER_31 1:26:43

Thank you very much. Thank you. Hello, caller pristela name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:54

Good evening, Ambassador. I think I will like to remain anonymous.

SPEAKER_31 1:26:59

Anonymous, make your contribution.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:01

Yes, I just want to make a very interesting observation on how uh the UPND has been doing their politics, and it's coming out very, very clear um in the recent activities. You see, what the UPND has been doing is that they don't even seem to care about campaigning. Uh, it's as if they've already planned to rig. So, to justify their rigging, they will go for all these stories that are happening and then spin them on the head and blame it on the opposition. I'll give you an example. When the UPND were stoning uh Brian Montevide's motor kit uh in Shawama on Friday, we all saw it. We all saw it on videos, they were throwing stones and they were wielding bangers and so on and so forth. But on Saturday, diggers, which is like a mouthpiece for UPND, their headline was blaming the opposition. They said that Tonsey uh Qatars was. The ones who attacked UPND. They've been doing this. In Mazabuka, they did the same thing. They even went to the extent of getting the guy who attacked uh Gary Nkombo to report Gary Nkombo to the police. Now, it may look like a simple political ploy, but this is a very effective system that they have in place. Let me give an example. When you go to court, when you're seated in court, there are two things that the court relies on: witnesses and evidence. Witnesses and evidence. And this is what UPND is using as a system. So when an incident happens, evidence. You will have it on video, you will have it, you know, you know, whether on photos and stuff like that. Then they get people, they turn the witness upside down. The witness says the opposite of what happened, and it goes print media or in national television. And that is kept as a witness to back up that evidence. In case it so happens that you go to court after the elections, and there was there was you know that there was a you know the issue ends up in court, they'll pull up those newspaper articles and they'll get those videos from ZMBC and they'll get those cases from court and they'll put them there and say, This is what happened. Unfortunately, as on the opposition side, we don't seem to read what the UPND is doing. We are just there, just instead of doing you know the counter to that, we seem to be locked up in some kind of space. I don't know what that space is. You know, we should be dealing with this very effective system. Because in when UPND reads and we go to the UN, we go to SADIC, we go to the AU, we go anywhere, UPND will pull out those newspaper articles. They'll get videos from the uh, you know, from ZMBC and they'll say, This is what was happening. And the people will be testifying on record that this is what was happening. Cases, you know, you know, dockets from the police will be showing that that was what is happening. And then you will wonder what happened, like the world is unfair to us. No, it's not. Uh, it is time to do what we are supposed to do in the opposition. When these things happen, when they stone us, the first thing we should be doing is putting it on record. We should have a huge budget of our Jazeera being in Musaka, BBC reporting those issues, CNN, so that in case they try to use that record, we will have a record to refer to say no. Uh neutral international media covered this matter and what is true. And when they begin to see that is showing these things, they will fail to rely on that little plan of theirs. They will have to just go down and campaign. If you have seen, we are 60 days to the elections. Have you seen UPND campaigning anywhere? No, what we saw was even when Mao Samba defected UPND, HH still blamed PF. Why? Because as far as HH is concerned, PF is ECL and everyone who stands with ECL. And any blame you can put on PF and stick it there, it justifies whatever storyline you have. That whenever there's violence, whenever there's confusion, PF is to blame. Even when the people he put there as PF people Sabinga and Mao Sampa and all those people are affected to him like Sandich and others, they are with him. But he still, and PF is really non-existent, but you still use it, you still stick to the to the to the to the script. Why? Because his audience is not local, his audience is international. So that when he does what he wants to do in this country, that will be the audience that we will be running to, but that audience will be filled with lies, with lies, and there will be nothing we can do about it because we'll have nothing to count on. So let's think you know strategically about how we are handling media when this incidences happen. Do we have these international media houses in the country? Are we reporting these things into the platforms where they should be? So we need resources going in that direction. I just thought that we need to really think openly about about how UPND is very clever with these things, and uh to beat them, we really need to play their game. Thank you very much, Ambassador.

SPEAKER_31 1:32:40

Thank you. Anonymous, make your contribution.

SPEAKER_29 1:32:52

Yes, Mr. Mwamba. There's two things I want you to tell our president Branduir and the um Mr. Makebizor. This information, uh, the sources uh some kind of uh uh what will happen. This UPN, what they are trying to do is they are trying to uh provoke the tons arrivals so that the buttons arrived when they react, they want to disqualify our president to say uh it's a part of uh if you so let's be careful uh as a uh it provokes them, they will say now the tons palm are the one creating violence, and yes, they will disqualify our presidential candidate. So let's be careful. Then too, they have just said whatever is better they ring the election than the runs to form government because so they are trying by all means, they have to be a mum, isn't being barikano shika. So let's see, be active one be know all the prices, especially let them buy phones for groups, but the information can flow well than yamanticamako, especially areas. Let the leadership almost those around buy smartphones and distribute in every district so that the flow of information can be fast and quick. I rest my case, Mr. Mamma.

SPEAKER_31 1:34:48

Thank you very much. Let's take uh I think I've got so people waiting for the cause. Where is the caller? Okay, hello, caller. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make a contribution.

SPEAKER_27 1:35:21

But my independent card, Kuma independent card, like sinker, then what vice is it, but when it zambda quite in the teacher, and quati I I don't know if you got sending. But retotrapal wesu, if we if we need Lubuto, delight, couldibamundu gre, it's not a ken. So we should not be catfit wasaka manu sakamana ninja no kuishubati uh if we light so kwademugati wobu te kuwa ukendi, ninjbati everu chat, now send a zambia kwati in pochiakwangasha. Namguakchi inbi nangi zambia in mwatawakwa etwakwa tam. Chikwa temu tungurushu, tekwa msangoshana in tekemandia chupasana. Ava andungaba chvali kaven by minam independent. Nombay nitunde monapufiashine monokwati in a system valefuya ngalafluk, suku chusinga simbo, balefoba kapele simbo yabaka indechin, mamonaga. So so apa apa badefatifu ban to secamani tu kwatu mwenzo to monokali mbachiba baitinyaba mundi apa patali stitakete mundiba. Ba ma independent bonsimadama ama membas badia bose, bakaju niba naniba ba bataba nobadifoka juniba ba presentakandichima. E simbo badefovagasim numbuku tekakwaf Montego teku. Indema intu in demonakotiva present biswa babakandishima na flukute kazama zambian. Ishingga to re lamgati mwone pariamenti a pariamantipova batamuteka party aminti. Cha jukati chibans ifimuamari karacha nga mamona intubushungatona ngatu speaker uh ifin lifiva lešta I don't know. Chuka chibans and quatiwa na banon. And bafutinga mammafuti kumba is it abandonabukuku kun tansku bais it nebe enafi. They are just choosing what to ever if you are custom by listen of you to be turn one of tuntunga money. Abamanga won is the Zambia contents who could look to la to laya to Kasangamu Bafi. Abama Zambia to Sara Puki. Who take o kuku who take anabo fewa. It ching that now fearwapisana mafia. There's no way emit kidabangabu kutiba fiafia it's Kashmirana. Nefia go and squit mufia, not to tell.

SPEAKER_37 1:38:24

Thank you very much.

SPEAKER_31 1:38:28

Let's take your calls so that when we alakola, please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution.

SPEAKER_16 1:38:38

Uh I remain anonymous.

SPEAKER_31 1:38:40

Anonymous, make your contribution.

SPEAKER_16 1:38:43

My contribution is as follows. Uh, I'll talk about the day that we get wearing Irokovashika. During his omid he very prophecy. And indeed, that's ticker. PFUP. There is a cleansing process. Let him come and join the free. It's time to join the free. Zambia shall remember you and come and be part of the history in the week. So that Zambia remembers you as a good person. Even other people, other opposition, political parties. It's time. It's time we joined every. I'm appealing to you. Let us join everybody like this. Let us become my big person like a bizarre. Zambia shall remember you. This is a very different direction. And to my Zambians, my fellow Zambians out today, I'm appealing to you. Guys, let us pray. We should pray so hard. And your opposition. Pray also. Pray, pray, pray, and be vigilant and more proactive. My license. Thank you very much.

SPEAKER_31 1:40:45

Thank you very much. Please go and have your say. Go and have your say. That's a video from Mazabuka when the police were firing tear gases. I understand some people were refusing that there were no tear gases. There is a video that has emerged from Azabuka. You can see the police discharging against supporters of Gary Combo. Alokola, please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution.

SPEAKER_28 1:41:48

Anonymous Landenipo, each aloach, one somebody outside all over the world. Okay? Now, the best thing we can do right now, it's not even some to put so much energy and concentrate to their foolishness of what's happening. I'm sorry for the bad word party. One thing I can say is background. It is never too late to do the right thing. If it's too late, it is very unacceptable. It's not okay. We are not going to continue letting the country go down like this. We have been taken for granted for so long. It is never trying to do the right thing. This as Car Gifilish Tiko is Mamba Kuma Mamma. This is a tip of an iceberg. That I can tell you. We have seen this province. Uh where can you know you see the videos? You can't tell what this is really cried for. The basis line could never ground my independence. Now when you say pushing her so much Gary combo to the edge. Now we shati Gary Kudyanga, Pisha Bamga Fabuca. This is green light, southern province in a lot of pockets. So that I can assure you. But it is never too late to do the right thing. Tweak at the next ground by independent now papa. We only have one Zambia.

SPEAKER_31 1:44:28

Thank you very much.

SPEAKER_13 1:44:44

From a no man's land.

SPEAKER_31 1:44:47

Make your contribution.

SPEAKER_13 1:44:49

Thank you so much. Well, Ramwamba, it's so overwhelming, really. But I do agree with most of the people who have just contributed to this situation. It's very sad, and um it's quite uh worrying to everybody. Yeah, but the only thing I can say, I think uh you have to change the strategy. What I mean by saying this is trying anything to frustrate the opposition, more especially you know, the people that we are supporting. Yeah, I don't want to mention names, you know, very well. They are trying to frustrate them so much so that uh they could maybe cause the avoc, and then they will cancel them out. I hope I know you know you hear from so many people, and you've got only two years. I hope you can quite ordinary people, please. Avantafu change strategy sana, a poet kalamba mumba mungumfisana, which the protect kalamba, which the prepantu ama Zambians, which is very true. You know, one thing that we have to keep in mind we are not dealing with the people from the 1930s, 1940s, 1950s, even some of us were born in 1960. They know exactly what they want. You know, African countries now are so much civilized, Bamba. So, for feeling for the protective vote. We do mobilize bulu everywhere. My vote, which I'm not going to cast, it will be it will be casted by someone else there on my behalf.

SPEAKER_37 1:47:52

Thank you, man.

SPEAKER_13 1:47:54

Thank you. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_31 1:48:02

I've got this call. Let me pick this call. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution.

SPEAKER_08 1:48:14

Uh, thank you, Mr. Mwamba. Uh, good evening, everybody, and uh, good evening, viewers. Good evening, uh, my name is Olivia Piri, an aspiring independent candidate.

SPEAKER_31 1:48:26

Thank you.

SPEAKER_08 1:48:29

Yes, uh, first, I've woken up from a shock, Mr. Mwamba, because when I was going to file in as an independent, it's so shocking that ECZ are really making it very difficult to run this election in this country. And it's so shocking and it's so disappointing. First, uh, previously, as an independent, you go with your symbol, you choose a symbol because you'll be able to interpret it, I think, to the message that you want to give to the ground. When I got there, I was told, no, we have these symbols that we've put, pick from here. And you know, when you look at number symbols, Bamba, that were put there, a bed. You would wonder what was motivating people. How can a candidate carry a bed as a symbol? And how do I translate it to the people? There were things like a guitar, there were things like this that do not actually really turn into development. Then, two, there was that candle, it's themselves that put it there. That candle. Now, today we are surprised as candidates. They want to remove a candle when I've already printed brochures, I've printed t-shirts, I've printed campaign materials. Is ECZ going to compensate us as candidates that are using those symbols that have removed? That's a question. So to me, really, it's a consent that Mayoma Zaromis cannot be running that institution like they are running a kitchen or they are running maybe their private businesses. This is an institution which is actually governed by constitution. And anything that they do, do they consult people? Who have they consulted? The stories we are hearing is because of Gary using that candle. So all of us as other independent candidates that are using that simple, we should suffer because of an individual they are fighting unkoquine. To me, really, it is very unfair. And what the question I have for ECZ are they going to compensate us as candidates who are using those symbols which themselves brought to the public, gave it to us as candidates, as what they selected. Now we have gone ahead and printed materials for us to start changing. Are they going to compensate us? It is really worrying. ECZ has held elections in this country from the time of independence, Mamamba. We've never seen this confusion. Why is this election difficult? Why is this election complicated? And why is ECZ running an election? We saw how they postponed the finding in because another political party was not ready of adoptions and all that. To me, my concern is will they compensate us who are already using that candle? And we've already printed our material. So they change how are they going to compensate us across the country? Because that's a concern of all the candidates that are using that symbol. Thank you.

SPEAKER_31 1:51:11

Thank you. Honorable, where are you standing?

SPEAKER_08 1:51:16

Chadeza East constituents in Eastern Province.

SPEAKER_31 1:51:19

That's a candidate for Chadiza East, and she's an independent and she has aired her views and that concerns. And I saw the same issue with uh the Simon Muela, who's a candidate for Lusaka mayor in Lusaka, and he says he has uh printed material already. Who will compensate him? Allo Cola, please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution.

SPEAKER_12 1:51:46

Uh uh good uh evening once more.

unknown 1:51:48

Uh Sam K calling back.

SPEAKER_31 1:51:50

MK, just hold on. I've got another caller who's been waiting for some time. Allo Cola, please tell us your name and where you're calling us from.

SPEAKER_30 1:51:57

Evening, Ambassador, how are you?

SPEAKER_31 1:51:59

Good evening, sir.

SPEAKER_30 1:52:01

Okay, yeah, okay. Um, James, um, Ambassador. You know, the the Bible says light and darkness cannot mix. So, you know, when we start hearing these people trying to ban symbols of light, candle, they are trying to quench the light. So we should be very strong on this one. We should be very strong on this one. It's darkness. They are darkness, and they don't want any light at the end of the tunnel for the people of Zambia. So anything that brings light, they are against darkness, is against it. So um that's what I can say on that one. But I am my concern, Ambassador, is the continuous attack of uh PF by UPND, despite what they've done to our party. Um look at from the one, UPND has been blaming PF for almost everything, even for their failures. You know, we saw His Excellency the president the other day when they were signing those instruments, I don't know what you call those things, he started saying PF borrowed recklessly. Lady Shuwa is the president thing cities here. PF borrowed for projects, airports are there, roads are there, schools are there, the teachers are employing, they are working in the schools uh which were built out of the money which was which was borrowed. Can you call that one as reckless borrowing? Look at them since they came, they've borrowed for a billion. Ask them what they've done with that money. There is nothing they can point at to say this is what we did with this borrowed money. They are borrowing for consumption. In fact, they are the ones who are borrowing recklessly. So coming to this issue of calling uh PF as corrupt people, I think those are just they are failures. You know, UPND since they came into power, they've invested so much in the talking industry, explaining nothing to the people of Zambia except their bitterness and hatred against the PF. Look at the violence like you know, the violences that we are seeing in the country, they still have the audacity to blame PF. Uh, really, uh these people, human beings, uh, you know, I don't think uh these people they look at human life with the eyes uh of a human being, uh, and they see opposite things. You know, when you look at everything that UPND has been doing, it is meticulously planned, you know, to you know, to to to to blame despite not in power being in power, UPND from the one has been behaving as the opposition, and the opposition has been behaving like you know, the ruling. You know, you can see what was happening in that parliament. You know, someone is trying to bring forward a point uh of national interest is curtailed uh by the speaker before, you know, even the minister responsible. I there's one thing that happened when Binwo was asking about the borrowing by the government when he said is it motivated by commission? The speaker stopped Binwell from asking that question and he made him to apologize. These are some of the things. But I tell you, Ambassador, this election of 2026, uh people are going to vote based on their emotions and their feelings. You know, sometimes it's not good. It's like UPND is inflicting pain on the general public. They think we don't think. You see, all they want is to put their schemes into us. They want us to bring the wrong things, which is very unfortunate. But my word of advice to all Zambians across this country, let's go on the voting day and vote for the right thing that we know uh that will move the wrong thing, the wrong perceptions, the manipulations, all these things that are you know, you can't rule you can't rule a country by manipulation or by hatred, vindictiveness. Everything when you hear every UPND official when they are talking, you see the intensity of hatred against the you know people and the hate, you know, this so-called PF, like I don't know, they failed to deliver on programs because of hurting someone or hurting a party that is not anywhere uh in power. So I think the best advice I can give to our people on the ground, come 13th August, let's go and vote. Let's go and vote based on our feelings and the things that we are gone through, the things that this country is taking us through. We are we are people of free will. We we understand things. You see, like when they talk about the free education ambassador, sorry, sorry, I'm taking too much time. They when they talk about free education, well, what is free about this education? When my son uh got to form one, I remember we spent over 5,000 quachas on uniforms and other requirements. What is free about this education? This CDF government, I think uh they are not serious. Of course, we know the money that is coming through CDF is equally shared among their systems. But let's go, let's go and vote. Enough is enough. We cannot tolerate all these things to continue happening in our country. Let's go to vote. That's my word, Ambassador.

SPEAKER_31 1:58:05

Thank you very much. I've got uh MK waiting. Hello, MK. Please tell us your name and make your contribution.

SPEAKER_07 1:58:11

Thank you, Ambassador. Thank you. Um, I was prompted to go in again after is it the independent from is this Chama?

SPEAKER_31 1:58:19

Chadiza or someone, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:58:23

Yeah, and um I'm just reading also on uh on Irari Mwentwa's page, the same sentiments that she has posted. Actually, Rari Mwentwa is saying uh the decision uh will actually cause uh create a constitutional crisis because you cannot uh you cannot uh improve the people give the people the symbol yourself and let it on change after they have invested so much. Because it's so much that these independent candidates have uh done so far. And imagine their independence, they are not getting any sponsorship from an organization or a party. So I think um it's too much for the UPND. I'm sure it's too much for them to handle, they have seen the pressure, and it's too much for them to be taking the people for granted for so long. You know, the UPND have always I think that's the article that I've sent you to say, testing the waters, they've always tested, you know, they've always put something, they see the reaction, I'm sure by tomorrow you will see another press release, you know, because they have seen that uh they are now in the wrong. We hope by tomorrow they will receive their decision of banning the Kendo uh Timbo. Otherwise, we urge every independent candidate to refuse this ban. Let's support them and let's stand with them. Let's touch on the on the Tonse Alliance. Um I don't know who you can talk to, but we need the media for Tonse to wake up. Let them wake up, let them stand. It's uh sluggish, so to speak. I don't even know the media team for the Tonse uh Alliance. So they need they they need to do better. The ground is okay, let them not be complacent to say they've already won. The battle is still there, but let them do the work. Thank you, thank you, Ambassador. I just wanted to add on uh that candidate who had called in. Thank you.

SPEAKER_31 2:00:58

Olivia Piri, yes from Chadiza. Another independent candidate, Bernadette Deka, has even complained that she's receiving harassment, even her bank accounts uh have been frozen. Well, she's been a good citizen all along. All of a sudden, her bank account is is frozen, extremely shocking. And let me look for where Bernadette was speaking. Bernadette Deka has gone for Chongwe, I think Chongwe West. Um, and they're already harassing her. She also carries a candidature over a candle that she had chosen that ECZ gave her as an opportunity. So she picked um that that uh symbol from ECZ, and and now ECZ is uh is asking her to drop the symbol this year, say in this interview where she had given earlier where even uh her bank accounts have been frozen.

SPEAKER_15 2:02:09

You know, but now that you joined politics, suddenly, you know, yeah, uh your your your account is frozen. Is that happening to you?

SPEAKER_23 2:02:18

This happened to me. This just happened to me last week, and I was there trying to, you know, to refuel my car in the evening in my ward where I live, because uh well um uh I I I have been privileged to be raised in my constituency in Cassisi area and also uh raise my own give God-given family together with my husband in our constituency in a different ward, which is Panalana Ward. And um fortunately it was at the filling station or gas station that knows me or knows my family. And I was about to, you know, uh refuel, uh very refuel, but I was about to pay.

SPEAKER_15 2:03:05

Then you discover that it's not it's not going through.

SPEAKER_23 2:03:08

I tried this, trying to send now, you know, with uh uh internet banking, trying to send money to my to my mobile account, maybe from there, and then send it to just like that. And it it took time, took long. I drove uh backwards into Balinny. I live in the state lodge area side. I drove back into Balini and uh went to take out the money. I'm I'm like uh this thing is not working, you see. Uh, we always talk about technology, and sometimes it's uh it's not coming through. Taking out the money and then on the slip set account frozen, yeah. Something like that.

SPEAKER_15 2:03:52

Have you rectified it though?

SPEAKER_23 2:03:53

Um well, it's underway, it's underway, it's underway.

SPEAKER_15 2:03:56

So these are some of the challenges.

SPEAKER_23 2:03:58

These are some of the challenges, and Transparency International Zambia two days ago reached out to me and informing me, I'm saying it publicly, informing me, or reaching out to me rather, saying that they have heard that I'm in this predicament of having a frozen account, and uh this is happening to quite a number of independents.

SPEAKER_15 2:04:22

Independent candidates.

SPEAKER_23 2:04:24

Well, that's Transparency International Zambia in a message which is in my phone right now. So I I cannot confirm that, but I know that it has happened to me only now.

SPEAKER_15 2:04:35

Uh never happened to you.

SPEAKER_23 2:04:38

No, it has never happened to me. It hasn't. Yeah.

SPEAKER_15 2:04:43

Maybe it's just a coincidence, anyway.

SPEAKER_23 2:04:44

You know, sometimes I I wish I could say it was a coincidence until I received a message which uh which is there from Transparency International. They should confirm. Yeah, this is I'm talking about an an organization, a credible organization that is in this country. So, and this is a public interview, therefore, they can say, Oh, uh, indeed, we reached out to to Madame Deka or not. You know, uh, I am using Decca because someone on the ballot. Yes, yes, yes, uh, you know, we reached out to Mrs. Zulu, did we or not? You know, and say this, and this is not a um a conversational, uh, verbal conversational call.

SPEAKER_31 2:05:28

Well, you are Benad is using the candidate of the light, she's also been taught to withdraw that, and uh scored for a meeting tomorrow, where all these candidates are being taught to withdraw their symbols of light. But I'm gonna be capable, give them the sun, give them the moon, give them something that shines, that shows light. Let's try to beat them. And like uh, many candidates are complaining is that they've already printed material. So, what do you do with uh that material? Because the advice came from Is it accepted the nominations with that symbol? How can they now turn around and urge candidates to um remove that symbol? Come on, come on. The violence, everything that is it is doing. Look at what is happening in Kowai. I'm looking for the video by the uh the former mayor of Kawe has issued a statement, is also expressing concern about the violence. Thank you very much, and uh, I think we should be uh closing the the broadcast. Thank you for staying with us and for following up uh the issues. This government is uh very determined that they should have an election uh that should guarantee President Hilma a second term, you know, but that's not the will of the people. They should allow the free exercise of our people to exercise their own free will, do not disturb them. But with the abuse of the police, we are seeing this in high gear. Hello, colour, please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution.

SPEAKER_13 2:07:46

Thank you. Good evening, Ambassador Mamba.

SPEAKER_31 2:07:48

Good evening.

SPEAKER_13 2:07:49

I'm an quite na caputa.

SPEAKER_31 2:07:53

Make your contribution.

SPEAKER_13 2:08:34

Pantukuli Aba Langashita. By basuminating by independent by Ruchia Fulukusha, even Mama Bitami Fulukui Shape. It's a bale foyer, Pantukuti, the Mabatu Pia by independence, Mala running a campaign effectively against them. Pantu Kalekaliba Presidentati, be seven in a petile seven year pita to kawina. Mm to Bakualeza. Ukumula be seven year pita, mwa glanda to kawina. Number seven yeona iquatamo, a mashui a suminisha, ukutila, uba tubinga bachida with draw, kwashala umo, nishuo in a chapa by elections. Number one nani, uko kember can soon never pita, bamwimbu nava pita, and uh never pita for nani.

SPEAKER_31 2:09:31

Fifteen, yeah, total fifteen.

SPEAKER_13 2:09:33

Fifteen yeah, never pita. If I was available, sandila. Nina wing a uni doctor, he's a medical doctor, or he's a chinchichi doctor, or shall the cool university or give a book if you give a guru, and give me a cayonse, and we see my battery doctor, na passa, I three theory, practical, a little mula wantu, ne fine fine, and politicians, talking about parliament, but elections, general elections, by elections. Now by your formula, one bam zambi. Kulif kwebati, wapi seven by president, haka in the shisha. Bamla duapio seven, ngio seven yeah, pity and got to fibi your seven night win. Anyway, I'm my MPs. I have rock were tested by the constituents. Ubulawi know but in five years' time, u took a sahibishinka, pamper layashita. So Bena, about fifteen candidates, they are not tested in any fire, in any exam. Tabachanda standing more, each as an approval, Ubantu, Abamu constituents. Chikesa was why wouldn't we have my Ama elections Ya wantu but four or five? But you say demobilizing functioning capacity, Yahawala, Yakwa independent. Lintu, I mean elections in Zambia. Namu Unipany Akwali said, Yo, president, we need candidates. And remember, UNIPA you want party state. If we had to take an example, but shall we adopted by uh Unip itself, the setting by nearby independent, Bashka Parliament, Bafika, never independent candidate. If you like on Kangarian combo party mutual mutual fati, is so kukafi tessio Imo Frenuba Mayonani for embabidi. I can quiz or mishika. Twinko fight. choices when we have skipped back the one two it's a chance uh the India the guardia uh the guardian for don't say and um to quite the guardia no but Isa a made you guide she'll be the fishing in a lobfrockilla consumers and so on in between the program if we can put a bitch to the votaka book of the sorry I am a designer campaign can be chapter a t shirt next quem be valid now chic to the cancaka yupiangi bahale but I'm gonna go to the city of the lava same pacan music and a ticket bamina bany few bachantu na lumba the chintima kusani the pickzulu na brand monde if it don't worry if it can up the after my elections that wina it was a quin that even that way. Now chinky shiny love before it's up in that pinnacle. But if I would have twenty zero six. But if I could take a couple twenty zero six but they are not beautiful anyhow. No wizin cut twenty but the wood you saw back can yet the bits of the body but one seat by the ambuthorse. So you won't cost about youth chairman who ever at this one is a bad interview and T Vaticama interview uh I P I Sukwaky Money if it's PND Meta Muela the Camus the market in a zombie no that shall be the cali. It actually joined M U PND but I can have what a design to say the nation at this one is so in his level the Balab MP once a guardian combo. If I would come with the Balana U PND so because of that to catch that no we can push you with him whatever wake up or take a near five and beyond it's not a match much changer. No, so then I crystal by so five by your pin at the point the backup tabula points we don't want that too. Put a news prime minister for five president for five presidency. If a fit president of yesu, but to but going back to my independence that to come opposed the quick the man of the Panichobasan Babani tried the body checking the chinka so it had me and five years we have to take it I don't even want that they should go another three years in power. If they're not doing that we do just by us to be voting them back into office. It could be that one of Lamalite schools the body schools we don't know we know we know what if into one idea which I don't pick it which air life like to civilization as this command of a disconnect service or anything which by information service back township. Then dependent candidate it's a print and change first and foremost sign or symbol presidential or no let's just say general election candidate or everywhere even designed no understand vision yaku. So if you see me at the map for that simple is simple but understanding when we know something at some reason for choosing that but each cannabis at the woman is at my child. The qualify but the constitution of Zambia Oklahoma changes a massive independent candidates. Because five years beyond five years the mona so bad omati no shit when I came at the new manner to take a package only a one man for me I psychology is because they know the body will be on the two August twenty twenty six. Without these subjects the Timon without the citizens villagers they didn't be full. So present among us among supporters we have to get challenged if you five years a p to he was a story to go back on him that took what the Zambia is like never ever created a yimbi ni no in a Zambia. So if you got a UP chaty propaganda featuring one no like I'm rose and I'm rose nothing

SPEAKER_37 2:36:54

Oh sorry, sorry. Hello, caller. I think this should be our last caller.

SPEAKER_13 2:37:02

Hello, uh, are you back? People are worried that you went offline.

SPEAKER_31 2:37:06

Oh, oh, I I I didn't realize I think it must have gone offline.

SPEAKER_13 2:37:11

Yeah, people are worried. They said I should uh should call. Oh, thank you very much.

SPEAKER_31 2:37:17

Ah, okay. Thank you very much. Thank you, thank you.

SPEAKER_23 2:37:20

You're welcome. You're welcome. It was in the message, so it is meaning that other people are going through what I'm going through.

SPEAKER_31 2:37:31

Yes, I'll call it please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution as we close. Yes.

SPEAKER_24 2:37:47

You are not hearing no one is hearing you.

SPEAKER_31 2:37:51

No, thank you very much. I uh I I I have been alerted. I think there was a line that was off somewhere.

SPEAKER_23 2:37:58

Okay, that's the same. In the independent bracket.

SPEAKER_15 2:38:00

And these are some of the challenges. Maybe that's what you stop people also from from engaging.

SPEAKER_23 2:38:06

Absolutely, absolutely. When I suddenly, you know, yeah uh your your your account is.

SPEAKER_15 2:38:13

Is that happening to me?

SPEAKER_23 2:38:14

This happened to me. This just happened to me last week. And I was there trying to, you know, to factor to refuel my car in the evening in my ward where I live, because well um I I I have been privileged to be raised in my constituency in the Cassisi area, and also uh raise my own give God given family together with my husband in our constituency in the different ward, which is Panalana Ward. And um thank you very much.

SPEAKER_31 2:38:47

Let's call it uh a quit. We'll have another broadcast tomorrow. God bless you, and um uh God bless our country.

SPEAKER_19 2:39:49

I'm explaining a micro, I mean I'm gonna make change, we want change, we want change, we want change, hey, we want the change on the poly laptop.

SPEAKER_17 2:42:39

I'll buy the map by the book, it's what the power of the pinnacle, put the chat because it's a big deal.

unknown 2:45:14

What the gun does we have everything?

SPEAKER_17 2:45:16

What the gun wins?