BRIAN MUNDUBILE LEADING

LIVE NOW; WE DISCUSS THE STATE OF ELECTIONS 37 DAYS BEFORE POLL DAY

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SPEAKER_10 0:13

This is the reason why. And I'm going to put in a quantity. It's been four years, five years, but come nothing. I'm a chicken. One book we get.

SPEAKER_11 6:43

Viva Tchakwa. Viva Tjagua estoué. Cabote Pérambi. This country means reconciliation. Nakulomuki Bundoubi. Bibateke va tue. Bichiru ba, bichinou bae vaswe. Pakoute moi.

SPEAKER_26 10:06

Guys, share, share. Let's have this broadcast. Today we are reviewing screar. The front runners are Munduwile and Hakainde Hlem and we review who can likely take it in the next 37 days. So share, share. We begin to make major pronouncements as we weach all down to the last 37 days that are remaining.

SPEAKER_11 11:26

Avançada, avant vite, avatato, avaloupato. Fue benefanda la manique, a ma sirietou yamona, et miti shalouba, panono ticha moneka. Ama point fencia va fica, non ganiwe. Oukoutanda Lila Chafum a lipila. Lélo cuena litila moulou. Au Speakata, a batumum à l'état, no baba libissoula, maman baga, ilapiza en chima. A fini là, d'image, avancée, avant, fini, avatato, avaloupa. Fue venez à la manique, a ma siri est tatouyamona. Ama points menti à ba piekanonganiwe. Oukutanda Lila Shamfum alipila. L'éloku kwenarichi la moulou. Awesépio bate ki pitata, a basungum ale tata, dumbaba libissoula, mouna non baga, il en pizza lishima.

SPEAKER_18 16:46

Wait a whole game, we did that like the way. Wait.

SPEAKER_16 18:17

Who's the boy you can? Like what you like, you know, we like that, like one shit.

SPEAKER_11 21:22

Ou babou leyamé banabanimo Cabote Pérambi, Viva Lou Viva Lou épatoué, viva Tchagwa, viva Tchakwa estoué, bobo leyamé banabanimo, caroté, pénapi, o pecou leyam é banabanimo, caro c'est pénapi.

SPEAKER_28 24:11

Mailo Mailo Kurusaka Basankile Mulumendo Ulungisha Filimba Neba Mushile Silba Shakurungisha. Idomina Mukombola Atila Nishatumfu Efasil. I'm Boku wimbo mundivide namake. If you have a name subaimine, ukomuma no kumuita. Mukanyama na kufu abantu fo. Ava name swa leti, fwe quite fio body fell. Amalale to a kwa yea number twenty utuasbi. Takuangu wish kunango to ketchup. If it was lisa, twatch sana you pivap. Twali le chinsay pn divo, that's what we kept with you. Two fashivishi panny, wise pakati pan sevo, that's what we kept with you. Mish pakatu, chat tells the money and each as a condemnation. Jakoya mumendum chalama, pam for movement of wakapucha, pam for your band to wakanyama, ima, wave channel, who can pair to move a political violence. Yes, no. Mr. President, you'll walk away. I want you to denounce violence. You should denounce political violence. Basically, you're putting what you see in gap, what is patrol? So, if we have free, one feeling. Maybe the five years to each other. Now what travel now? Malif and pay. Kaisika to put to money for one minute more to what you could do over the sort of field.

SPEAKER_26 26:19

Indeed, we've lost from John Lang, a radio repairer, uh Nelson Chikumbi, who was killed because he repaired a radio that was brought by Clanton to test it, and to test its volume and everything, he played the Mundubile um uh Makebi song, Wengile, and it is at the market, and the UPND accused him of campaigning for the opposition and they beat him and he died later at the hospital. I'll play the report. We have Kwesha Monga. Uh his other name is also Amfrey Luisha, who died in Caputa. This one is uh a UPND card. Again, there was an altercation at a place called Pump House. There's a bar near there. The UPND came and you know caused violence. And uh sadly, for one reason or another, uh Kwe Shangonga was killed. We have uh Confucius um Mwene, the independent candidate from Magoye East in Mazabuka, whose driver was killed in a gruesome manner. They thought they were killing uh Confucius Mwene. At the last minute, he changed where he could sleep, but unfortunately that cost the life of the driver. The violence as as uh uh Brian Mundwile has stated, uh President Akainde Chilema is in charge of the levers of power. Remember in 2021, the PF lost elections because of political violence. It's not that the PF were violent and the UPND were victims. The UPND were also a very violent party. But do you know why the PF was punished? It's for the simple reason that President Akainde Echilema had President Edgar Lungu had the levers of power, had state institutions, had the police, who these institutions are designed by our constitution to keep violence, to keep crimes. It is for the reason that they held the PF responsible for the political violence in 2021. It didn't mean that the UPND were not violent. The UPND have the history, they've been a violent party. Um so may the soul of the three uh uh uh uh uh you know lay in eternal peace and uh we pray that there should be no further violence. And I agree with Bran Mundwilo when he challenges the president that the president must speak very strongly against this. I remember at the height of the political violence, President Edgar Lungu stating that there was no justification for any violence. Any life lost was not worth even a million votes. That's what President Edgar Lungu would say. He says, I would not lose a life, even if it's at the expense of a million votes. So here we have lives that are lost. And I think the president, the inspector general of police, must come out and must come out very, very strongly. I started the broadcast late uh because I was watching uh a football match. I had hoped. I'm I've been a big supporter of Argentina, but you know, when you look at the history and the way they've treated black people, and you know, we had a huge community of black people, just like in Brazil, but that entire population disappeared. So I love Messi, but you know, cardiafika violence against black people in Argentina has uh uh so party game I was hoping that Egypt would win, but unfortunately Argentina has won. My reluctant team that I support, and uh Messi, my son calls um, you know, uh Leon Messi that the old man, I said, even your old man from Portugal is also old, you know. He says, no, he just walked away and says, oh, the your old the old man has scored and Argentina has won 3-2. They scored three goals in the last 14 minutes. It must be very, very difficult for Egypt that were leading up to 14 minutes before the end of the game, they were leading 2-0 and Argentina scored three goals. This makes uh uh countries that have qualified, I think Morocco, France, Norway, England, Spain, Belgium, and now Argentina qualifying to um uh I think there's a match coming up between Switzerland and Colombia. We'll see what the results will be later in the day. Who are you supporting? Make your comments. Are you supporting Morocco, France, Norway, England, Spain, Belgium or Argentina, or your team has been kicked out? My biggest team is Cape Verde, you know, Cabo Verde, as they say it in Portuguese, a small group of islands with a population, very small population. They are the wonderful goalkeeper who saved unsaved and saved many goals. And out of love that Cape Verde reaches the finals, they were splendid. They were they were the they were the I think they were the outstanding team that has emerged. You saw how uh Argentina struggled to beat uh Cape Verde, um uh and Morocco, I mean um and and and now Egypt. So uh who are you supporting in the last eight as they begin these uh FIFA World Cup? I think they'll be going into the quarter finals after the last 16 because we've been seeing uh the the the last 16 playing out, and I think there's a game coming up, Switzerland versus Colombia. I've put a very provocative statement there that Munduwile is leading. Why do I say so? My last broadcast, people were saying who is leading between Munduwile, Hakainde Ichilema, Harry Kalawa, and uh Fred Meme. So I've been analyzing as the days proceed. And uh uh a few days ago, 20 days ago, I declared when we had the broadcast when the team went to bury and they hadn't held you know a major rally when they were burying Kosiyama Kosi, I think they had begun one rally and suspended the campaigns. I declared that this race would be a two-horse race between President Hakainde Ichilema and Bran Munuwile. But people said, but look, Harikalab hasn't had a rally, uh Fred Membe hasn't had a rally. You are too PF, you are too optimistic that to declare that Bran Munduwile, it will be a two-horse race between Bran Mundwile and um and Hakainde Ichilema. Well, I declared almost almost 20 days later what I had stated has become. I narrated that um um there were concerns that candidates from the PF, with what was happening with Mal Sampa, with what was happening with Robert Chavinga, that they will not be allowed on the ballot. There was a move people began to prepare. Like a safe haven could be a Hari Calabar Citizen First or KBF's um uh uh you know prosperity party or Fred Member Socialist Party. But by uh February, March, many people were leaning towards Hari Calaba. They felt that probably was going to provide a home in the event that the PF are not allowed. And Tonsey, both Tonsey and PF Pamosi are not allowed on the ballot. It came to pass. PF uh uh uh people that emerged from PF, Makebizolu and Brian Mundovele, emerged under special purpose vehicles, NRP UP and you know uh uh uh restoration party. And the goodness is it became one ticket. What they did was to electrify the ground base, to solidify that uh uh base of people that came from PF or had left PF or were looking up to the PF for solutions. And here is the kicker. President Hagainde H. Lemat spent five years destroying the patriotic front. He spent a lot of money to jail them, to deplatform the PF, to remove the leaders and give it to stooges of Mouseampa and uh uh uh Robert Chavinga. This has turned out to be a blessing in a great disguise. Because now Brian Munduwili and Makebizulu don't even have to speak about PF. They don't even have to speak about the late president Edgar Lungo. They just need to come to the platform and promise people what they will do for our country. Imagine if they were standing on the PF. Facing Gakwariuku Papa Pata, Gakwariukuchita apologize, we wouldn't probably have attracted new people that have come that had strong issues around the PF. So a matter meant for evil, a matter, a matter meant to destroy the political space in our country has turned out very good. If there is any person who has rebranded the PF, it's President Hakainde Ichilema. Because it is now with him, with Robert Chavinga and Mao Sampa. And they are the people that are appearing on his platform. And I guess he's spending time to condemn the PF while he has Chavinga and Mao Sampa to speak on behalf of the PF. The troubles have moved to President Haka Inde Echilema. Makebi Zulu and uh and uh Brian Munuwile just need to concentrate on the message of what they will do to Zambians for Zambians, the message of hope, how poly how their policies will be different, how they will rescue this country. Uh I posted something on my page about uh uh the the the the debt program in um the debt program in in Ghana. Ghana has decided to pay off the debt. Let me just take a brief, a brief, a brief politics.

SPEAKER_28 37:47

Mailo, my lookurusaka, bassangile, umendo, never mushile, slimbachakulungisha. I don't mola, atila, the shakunfwe, if a chile, I'm bokulish, mundivine amakebi. If you have a name suba imine, ukomuma, no kumupaya. Mukanyama, now for name suma lady, to ever quite a few. Amala to a quarter, yeah, number twenty utopia. It is lizer, to a sandwich.

SPEAKER_26 38:55

Uh, after so many days in the field, Bran and uh Makebizulu left Lusaka, I think two weeks ago. You know, they were rallies from Petaoke to Nimba, uh, to Katete to Chipata, they went to Lundazi. Uh, they couldn't have won in Chama, they started with Mpika, you know, Chinsali, uh, Isoka, Nakonde. They moved to Mbala and uh Nakonde. And um I'd bemoaned that uh they haven't had an opportunity to have um a helicopter, and this is extremely taxing on them. First the roads in many places of our country in the rural areas are terribly bad. And you know, so they've been away for over two weeks from Lusaka, and as you heard the voice of Bran Mundul, it's beginning to cause stress because in in these campaigns, I've been to these campaigns, you catch flues and coughs in the dust and you know in crowds and all. Uh, but uh persist, these are young men, like I stated the other day, they are far younger than President Akainde Ch Lemau 64. Brand is only turning 55, um Makebi is 46. They have to endure this taxing campaign. They don't have helicopter because we understand the Zambia Air Force have not permitted. I personally know that both our team and the team of Harikala requested for the permission to have a helicopter flown and a route uh approved, and Zambia Air Force have kept mom. And like I say, whatever the devil plans with, you know, the Lord has a way of turning it to good. In the end, the the struggle of Bran and Makebi going by road has helped because they've met more people. They've had instant roads like the the stop at Matumbo, where they instantly attracted a huge crowd, and it's been like that everywhere, where they make a stopover, or when people learn that this is a convoy of Bran, Mundwili, and Makebi Zulu. So, what could have been very bad has turned out very good because they are mobilizing the base, meeting people they wouldn't have naturally met. And also there's a fear uh of these plans, safety, and you know, if you are in a suspicious environment, in the end, it has played out very well, but it's extremely taxing on their bodies. And then the number of times, look, they've done three provinces uh in a period of two weeks. President Ichilema is now in a period of four days, uh, is proceeding to do almost five provinces. He did northwestern province, he did western, he did central, he's on the Copper Belt and is going to Eastern Province. And speaking of Eastern Province, uh our sent uh this poster, uh evangelist Daniel Tort from Cape Town, is supposed to have a huge rally on Wednesday, um, which is tomorrow. Um is supposed to be a seven days program from Wednesday, no, a five-day program from Wednesday up to Sunday, 12th July. He's supposed to have uh a cons uh a crusade, he's he's a well-known uh preacher, started his preaching. Evangelist uh Dutroid started his preaching when he was a youth. So he has modeled his uh crusades around what Reynard Bonke would do. People that don't know Reynard Bonke, that's where Nevas Mumba grew from. He was an interpreter at Reynard Bonke's rallies, and you know, the breakthrough that Nevas Mumba got came from here. So uh Daniel Dutch is also an admirer of Reynard Bonke. So it's supposed to have a five days crusade in Eastern Province in Chipata, and it has been cancelled on the understanding that the president will be in the area, and it's totally unfair. This is a second, third program that is associated with state house counselling programs. The the first one was Sande Snyangui's you know overnight prayer uh that we're supposed to have on Independence Day. Then we had the Jehovah's Witness, uh, whose third day was cancelled at the last minute. They had paid for three days for their district convention and they had uh planned for for it, and you know, they fill that entire 60,000 seater stadium, and they were forced at the last minute because on Friday, President Akainde Chlema uh announced that he was going to have uh uh a rally and launch his campaign for this year's elections for the presidential, parliamentary, and local government elections, you know, at Hero Stadium, outside Hero Stadium, and the Jehovah's Witness were forced to vacate. Now we have evangelists done. It's taken him months to prepare for this five-day conference in Chipata, but it's been postponed on account that the president, after his Copa Boat rally, is supposed to be in Eastern Province. Totally unfair. These are things that are decampaigning the UPND. And I wish that they can make their program around not to disrupt institutions such as the church when they have pre-plans. An international crusade takes many months to plan. And a busy man like evangelist Daniel Dut has all year round booked out in advance and to cancel his five-day crusade because the president is going to be in the province is totally unfair. Like it was unfair to the Jehovah's Witness. So we we proceed. Like I said, I've put something very provocative that Brian Munduvile is leading. Now that's a very provocative statement to stay. But like I said 20 days ago, I said this is going to be a two-horse race between President Hakainde Echlema and Brian Munduvile. And we saw, in fact, I said it before they had the Kitwe rally. And it appeared that I was being speculative, or I was favoring the team I belong to. There are many times when I'm seated in this chair, I say unfriendly things. Because when I'm seated in this chair, I'm on EMV, there are things I say that are totally broad, totally analytical, totally based on the facts available. So I never say them because I need to say them. I say them because they are founded in the truth. So why am I saying Brian Mundwile is leading? Someone says, look, the Brian Mundwile Makebi team have not featured. The UPND are saying we have not featured in 70 constituencies. That's not true. Because I think Zuman Zimba, Dr. Zuman Zimba, clarified and gave out details. And someone can put in the comments uh even that list that was released by Brah uh by Zuman Zimba, or someone can quickly send it to me. How many constituencies has the Tonse Pamozi Alliance featured in? The enemy has been saying you out of 226, you didn't feature in 72 constituencies. Someone send me the list. I think uh Zuman Zimba had released that list and demonstrated that they had few. I think officially from ECZ, it's only 15 constituencies that remain uh unchallenged, 15 constituencies. And the others where there have been attempts to make the candidates withdraw. Like the case of uh uh Mwene in Wengua and uh the independent candidate um who's driver just was recently killed. There are all these candidates that are being persuaded to stand down. We saw the young man in Kahwe today. He announced that he was standing down, but we still have uh an NRPUP candidate in Kahwe, so that's fine, even if the UPND candidate withdraws. Um so the the UPND says number one, you haven't featured in all candidates, in all constituencies, huh? That's supposed to be a weakness. Number two, NRPUP and Restoration Party are barely two months old to the Zambians, and therefore it will take a long time for them to be properly entrenched. Number three, President Akainde Echilema is an incumbent, and as you've seen from the rallies, is able to wrap up campaigns. He has done in five days, he has done almost five provinces, and they're saying he has that age and advantage, and then we have 116 um districts, we have 10 provinces, and we have over 226 constituencies with the 35, 37 days remaining. It is clear at the pace that Mwambayo team is moving, they may not even cover the entire provinces. And they are saying President Akainde Ichilema has delivered on CDF, he has delivered on free education and on debt restructure. That is the argument why they think Ichilema is far ahead. And uh, someone sent me the rally in Kituwe, which appears to be their biggest so far. But the trouble with those rallies, and I'll show you, I think I need to quickly download the picture. Is are you telling me, even as big as a rally you had in Quitu, everyone dressed in red, you mean all those are UPND members. And in this country we know. The largest number that political parties have for members is very small. I've given details here, that in 2021, the Patriotic Front, I think by study, is it Frederick Stifting, the the Germans had done a study of the official number of registered members by political parties. The first was PF, it had about 450,000 members. Then it had the second one in place was UPND, that had official register of around 180 to 200,000 members. It quickly gives you a clear picture that in our country, the people that determine the fate of our country usually don't even belong to UPND or PF or any other political parties. They are Zambians. They don't register with any political parties because the total number of all members of political parties was under 800,000. But if you see the voter turnout, it was about 4.5 million registered voters that turned up to vote. So you have the bulk of our people that are not registered or are not actively identified with any political parties. They don't buy cards, they they they don't, you know, they they they they they are behind, they can support your policies at a time. And that's why the rallies by the UPNG, which are massive, uh have a big weakness. The Kitue rally I was seeing it, which appears to be the biggest rally so far, maybe even the Lusaka rally, but the kitwe rally today was very big. But look at the cars behind, the vehicles, the buses behind, and everyone is in red. Uh uh. That is why they are saying, in the end, the frustration that uh Bran Munville and Makebizulu have felt where they haven't had time because their political party was not approved yet. It was only approved, you know, just two months ago, and uh there has been no time to print regalia. If there's any regalia that could have done, probably it was done under FDD. And so the the in the end, there's no regalia. There could be symbolic regalia here and there, but there's no regalia because you print them in China, and it takes three months for those containers to arrive. So Brad Mundwile has and Makebizul have no regalia, and this is helping them because then you can't tell whether the rally is by ordinary members, by ordinary people of our you know, our people, or by members of you know, NRPUP and Restoration Party. So it has benefited the rallies by the president, everyone is in red, never paint, everyone's in uniform. Now, if you read the review by by uh uh by Dixon Jerry in his reflections when he was at State House, and you know the rally that they had at the last uh Mandevo rally uh before we we went to elections in 2011, the rally at those Mandevo grounds was very big by Rupiah Banda. But you could see the numbers of buses and canters behind, and everyone was in blue. And uh Rupiah Banda dressed everyone and everything from trees to people to everyone. People say this is an artificial. Where are the Zambians? And when the results came, they showed. In fact, Vasata used to discourage Patriarch. There were symbolic t-shirts here and there. No cards, no regalia, thumped President Rupia Banda. This is what I see with the same. That the biggest person who has rebranded um uh Bran Munuwila is President Akainde Helema himself. So Bran has no regalia, and the mass crowds is pulling appear just ordinary people. There are few cars around them, few counters around them. What you are seeing is people are moving. There's an allegation that they are being bust. No, no, just check all the rallies. Whether it's a KPF rally, whether it's a dola rally, check the Cabwe rally, you go to Petaoke, you are not seeing any vehicles around those rallies. Meaning people have walked, they've come, they've cycled to those rallies. And if you compare with the UPND rallies, they are all in red and there are too many buses and canters behind. That shows you that they are the ones that are bussing and dressing up. They look organized. Are they ordinary voters? That's another matter. Another thing they are saying is that uh President Akaindechle has uh an edge, he has an advantage because he has his strongholds intact, uh, southern province, uh, western province, northwestern province, and Luapula, and that he's going then to use uh the other provinces as complementary to his solid base. But is the base for President Akainde Hilema as solid as the UPND are putting it? Is it as solid as they are putting it? The I think the UPND have shot themselves in the foot by featuring candidates that are not popular in Southern province. People like Jack Mwimbu and others should have been retired. You should not have antagonized people like um uh uh Garin Kombo. You know, we you should not cause violence against Cliff Mwene in Wengwa. I know it must be painful. This is where the president comes from. Then there's a candidate who's who's probably related to the president, who is not supporting the official candidate of the pres of the party in an area where the president comes. And now you have unleashed violence and the young man has to live in fear. All those are not uh sitting well with the people in southern province. What is my cause? It may cause apathy because you've given them candidates that are not popular. They may not vote for the Tonse Pamoszi Alliance candidates. They may vote independent or stay home. So your stronghold is not as strong as it is. Western province. The cry from Western province is very simple. We've supported you consistently. What have you done in return? Look at the PF. They they tied the Mongu airport, they did the Mongol Collaborate, the biggest infrastructure project in Southern Africa, $350 million for a stretch of about 37 kilometers. And um uh someone says the the the that program started with Rupia Banda. Uh Musokotuane procured the loan. So there were two programs. Remember, I was privileged to have been PS in Western province. There were two projects. One, we got a loan from um the Arabs, the Arab uh, I think the Saudi Arabia fund. And we did the Mongu Kalabo Road. And remember, in one season it was washed away. And then the designers came. It started under Rupiah Banda. The designers came, they said, what you need here is not a road. What you need is an elevated platform, literally bridges after bridges. I think there are 26 bridges with the longest span on Zambezi Road, 1.1 kilometers, that make that road. They said you can't do a road on Mongo Kalabo Road because the plains, the flooding is unpredictable. It rises. There are many times that is going to rise to historic horizon to bury the road. So the design ensured that the lowest point was now compared to the last distance in the hundred years that we've had official measurement, that the highest that that swamp area has risen. And that's why they built bridges after bridges. $350 million for a stretch of 35 kilometers. So when President Sata came into office, let me, I want to answer the question that this was Rupiah Banda's project. Uh and I had just been taken to Western province as permanent secretary in 2013. And there was a terrible negative report that the Mongo Kalabo Road first was not bringing value for the money, and that the Mongo Kalabo Road, even if it is done, it's going to be washed away. Uh there was a negative report. And I was alerted by colleagues from RADA. I think people like Ben Achuala, who was PS and was RDA CEO at the time, can tell you that I received a report that the loan had ballooned our books, it was not worth it, and it was going to be canceled. When I received that message, the first person I called was Wainonge winner. And I said, there's this negative report. And I'm told the Ministry of Finance is actively trying to cancel this loan. This was 2013. And Wainonge can confirm with you. And uh we made a plan that we're going to involve his majesty the Litunga, Woi Nonge, and myself. We individually called Basata and pleaded for the case. So he called me. I said, send, Mr. President, I've toured this. And I remember releasing the images of uh Mongu Kalabo Road. It was 90% done. They hadn't put the tops, but the pillars were up in most places, and uh some covering was there. But it was 80 to 90 percent done. And I said it's ridiculous for anyone to file such a negative report. And the following day, Benad Juwala and a large team from Ministry of Works, from RDM, and from Ministry of Finance came. And uh they toured. And lucky enough, the following week, what Alexander Chquanda was also making a tour because I had persuaded him on the cash-nut project, he had released 10 million quacha for us to begin primary work. But you know, when we had now written that uh document for 50 million dollars, but he gave us 10 million to begin to group together uh the associations and to do some preliminary work. We had some Mozambicans that I had brought in to bring nursery, and so he had given me 10 million kwacha for that work, and he was coming to follow up on how that was done. He had a tour of Sesheke for you know, he had a good relation with uh uh senior chief yeta uh may so rest in the turn of peace and then in in Mongo. So you remember those pictures that I took Wo Alexander Chikwanda on an unscheduled trip to the Mongol Kalabo Road. He said, Why are you taking me there? I said, You need to see it. They've done 90%. And they took the measurement, I'd taken all the taken up all the the technical document had read it. That for example, the the road can never flood because they had taken measurements of their last hundred years. So the highest it had been would be the lowest for the Mongo Kalabo Road. And I said the design is totally different from the previous one where they did the road on embarkments. This is a road sitting on bridges. So I took him on a tour because when you have the Minister of Finance, you are guaranteed that it will be on ZMBC and it would influence whoever was trying to pedal negative report. The point is the Mongo Kalabo survived. Whoever was pursuing that it should be cancelled, it was not worth it. It was a large bill of $350 million for a stretch of 35 kilometers, was defeated by what we did. And the lobby of Woi Nonge and His Majesty the Litunga ensured that that project succeeded. And look what it is: it's an engineering marvel. You can see the PF that did so much. Woi Nonge that did so much. We did even another beautiful bridge on Sioma. You know, when you are going Mongu Sesheke Road, there's a one modern uh bridge on Sioma, and uh of course the Mongu Mongu Senanga Road was done. We did the township roads, and I can tell you the story about township roads. The they were under local government, so local government decided that they were going to do township roads for Western province in Kaoma and in Sesheke, and they said they couldn't do the township roads in Mongu. Do you know why? Because Mongu sits on a base of sand, and they said it would require, because they were doing, I think, 18 kilometers per district, and from their planning they wanted as much coverage as possible. So they said we can do politically three big roads, three township roads, please, Kaoma, Sesheke, uh, can't remember the was it Mulovezi? Yeah. For the same budget, instead of doing Mongu Road, I said, it won't happen. I am PSA. You can't ignore the provincial capital. Something I also did in Kasama. And I remember that I traveled to Lusaka for that small, for that particular purpose. And my minister was obvious mali teta. I engaged him. And the budget for the Mongu uh township roads could have done three districts. Why? Because to, like I said, it sits on a base of sand. So first you have to compact, you have to bring in so much gravel, compact it, you defeat the sand, you have to gravel it out, the engineers know. Then lay a foundation, then do the actual road. So the price for the Mongu Road, we could have achieved township roads um uh in three districts, but for me, I put my foot down. First, is Majesty the Litunga lives here in Mongo. Two, Mongu is a provincial capital, so you cannot skip. It's better you find, let's find the money for the other district, but we start with Mongo. That's how Mongu Kala Mongu has uh those township roads. Then the government did the Mongu Senanga Road. Um, then there was that big project we were supposed to do with Angola on you know Shangonbu, where we're supposed to do a 40 million dollar uh uh uh uh uh uh canal between is it Rivungu and Shangonbo. Um but the PF, despite all that work, despite even a 50 million dollar project to revive the cash nut, we're kicked out. So Western Province is asking, you UPND, who we have supported? What have you done? Okay, Mongu, Mongu, uh uh the small road to the Ritunga. Well, this is a party that supported you. The party, by the way, under the PF, Western province was the poorest province. It's now number number seven. The poorest provinces is now Muchinga and Northern Province. In fact, Mongo, Western Province, yeah, I think is number four after Luapula. Luapula and Mongu were the poorest provinces, but the development taken by the PF, and thanks to Nixon Chilango as well for Luapula, all the roads that were done, opening up Mansa, you know, tarrying that air. Bringing in industries and trying to build new power stations for Luapula. And the work that was done in Western province have ensured that these Cinderella provinces are no longer the poorest. It's now actually Muchinga and Northern provinces that are the poorest in our country. And Luapula and Western provinces that were literally a basket case have moved up. The poverty levels are no longer sitting at 82%, 84% like it was in the past. Why? Because of the initial projects that have first you've attended to the infrastructure that has brought economic boom and business. That Mongo Kalabo Road, the road that should have been done between Mongo and Congo. I saw the president while addressing a rally at Congo Secondary School. That's a project by the PF. There was no secondary school in Congo. We built a brand new modern boarding school in Congo. And you know, there was a power, power station, power lines, and a new road that was going there. I think it's a cancellation that was done. That's why up to now you don't have the Calabo Skongo Road. But all the works the PF did, the $50 million cashew project, the project to revive uh rice and rice production, and also to utilize the plans. To have I I used to get annoyed with FRA and Ministry of Agriculture. Because they just allocate fertilizer, and you want to bring fertilizer to Western province when most parts of Western province it becomes extremely expensive to grow maize per hectare. You have the poorest yield for maize in Western province. Only areas that are near Mumbua, like you know, you know, like Kaoma, uh, but Sesheke, Mlovese, Senanga, Kalavo, Skongo, you can't do proper um maize production. But our guys from Rusaka, the same fertilizer they are taking to northern province, is the same fertilizer they'll take to Western province. Instead of recognizing and having a genuine debate that we want to Aqualesa, Western province might require probably a different approach. Why don't we recognize the current climate change and maybe grow rice? Maybe utilize the plains for fruits and vegetables, the seasons, you know, those that's the most fertile area uh in Western province is when the river recedes, the Zambezi River recedes, and the fertile lands that remain unused. There are many things you can do differently. So, Western province is not sitting pretty with the with the UPND because they're asking them what is your plan with UPND? Similarly, look at uh Northwestern province, the largest mine in Africa are in Western province. I mean northwestern province. Should northwestern province be discussing needs for roads? Really? Water and water reticulation, a province that's giving you the largest wealth in southern Africa. You have Kansanchi copper and gold mine, you have Lumwana, you have um uh Sentinel and these other mines, then you have the gold mines that have come up, you know, Kasenseri, gold, the other gold mines, both in Mufumbwe, in uh uh Kasempa, and the grievances of the people of Northwestern is we are not saying this is our resources alone, these are resources for Zambia, but truly should we be arguing even about things like roads, you know, the Solwesi Minilonga Road, the accidents that occur and the delay in traffic. So UPND is not sitting pretty either, and they've supported UPND from its inception in 2000 in 1998 when uh Anderson Mazoka you know merged with the National Party and their first rally was in Soloze. Tetamashimba and others, you know, facilitated before he moved to back to Mwanawasa, they facilitated that growth of the UPND. Literally, the UPND political is born and birthed from Northwestern province. What has this government done? You have some of the poorest schools there, still with mud and poor, no roads, and uh yet we have the largest mines in Africa coming from that province, and people cry every day. And uh uh their MPs are frustrated, they picked unpopular candidates, they've punished, you know, a very vibrant MP who's critical, is a very critical guy. They should have just listened to him and turned him into a pariah, like they've done to Garin Kombo. You have an M former MP that has resigned. Samakai, brilliant man, he was at African Union, uh at the at the African Parliament, and I met him several times. Brilliant mind, but for them, whoever provides critique, whoever provides independent thought is deemed as an enemy of the party. And they accused him of supporting Bill 7 and he's been punished. So there are ramblings and grievances in Western province and northwestern province. This is for the Brian Mundwile team to pick up, to partner with people that can sell your message. You may not sell the message yourself. You have to find partners that can be listened to in those provinces. For President Akainde Ichlema, he has picked voices and partners that are not respected. Sande Chanda, Robert Chabinga, and the others that have moved to the areas. They are to use ECZ to ban the campaigns because they knew that Bran Mundwil and Makebizulu were going to have the largest political rally, one of the largest political rallies in Caputa. So they've used ECZ to ban um uh uh the NRPUP from conducting any of its activities in the area so that the two key officials who anchor northern and Muchinga provinces, Elvis Nkandu and Mitalena Rumango, are not inconvenienced or are not made to look weak, but there's something boiling in Caputa right where the biggest personalities of the UPND are. Um so what's my verdict? 37 days remaining. I can tell you that Bran Munduwile is leading, followed by President Hakainde Ichilema. And uh we're glad to see a number of opposition leaders from Sakuiwa Scota, you know, uh Chalakatek and others join Bran Munduwile. And and then you had um from the Citizen Fest, um our dear brother, uh one of the greatest grassroots campaigners, Shimbakambuli returned to the Ford, and you know, he gave um a good speech in Porokoso yesterday, and today they were both in Lunte. Lunte is in Porokoso, but it's near Luwingu. So there are two rallies: Lunte and uh and um and uh Luingu. And Shimbakambu was one of the main speakers, so they've done very well. Um we are yet to see them go to Luapula and uh then they will roll out to Lusaka. I think they're supposed to have one of the biggest rallies in Lusaka, and they are supposed to go now to the other provinces. Many people are saying, but why doesn't Makebi and Brian Munwill break up to cover ground? You cannot, for two reasons. Number one, I think Brian Munwill and Makebi ought to partner the way they've partnered. They need to continue building the solid base, to continue showing that their rallies are growing. If you split them, they may not attract the large crowd. The UP India and President Akainde H Demand, they can afford to split because she has a helicopter, the president has a helicopter. You know, they can then use the largest of money to even bus people, to bring people, to create uh uh uh uh uh uh a picture, like there's groundswell for the UPND. For Brad Munwell and Makebe, they may not afford it. So for me, I'll propose this is just openly, my thought right now is that they should remain together for those purposes. If we split them, would they attract the same crowd? At the moment, politics is about perception. And you know, the build-up, the momentum they keep on building for every province. We have to see it. If they split up, would we see that? And remember the enemy is waiting for your weaknesses, just one small rally, and they will go to town against it. So I think Makebi and Brand should continue on this path. What the role should be now for their candidates to continue mobilizing. Chawaku change a crusade. Did I your biggest pastor? Wakwata mass race crusade. Didiawaya, mwava much tente, mwewa much small communities and the junior partners. Now you go back to those people that you had worn over. So when Brian and Makebi pass through the whirlwind and command that large crowd, it's your duty, you counselors, you district leadership and constituency leadership, to continue with the gains. But now you are not a ruling party. Logistics should be left to the ruling party. You are not a ruling party. So do not bring the story of logistics. But a kwenda, if you've never challenged, sacrifice for now. Consolidate the gains that the rallies are bringing to your areas. And I have seen whether it's in Impulung Umbala, whether it's in Sengahi, whether it's in Malole, whether it's Kasama, you are not busing people. That is very good. It means you are preaching to the local community, and therefore the local leadership must quickly remain with the message while Brian and Makebi go to the rest of the provinces. Vote protection is my last comment before I invite because yesterday we had a discussion uh with the Canadians. The Sishua Sishua, myself, Father Waria, um uh and uh Mr. Patrick Shindan. We had a very wonderful with the Canadians. I'll find time to download that uh program and show it to you. We discuss the issue of vote protection and vote security. It remains very important. You don't have to wait for Zuman Zimba or Celestine Mukandila. Ukoku inwawa, get a voters register. There's even an e-copy of the entire voters register. Get it for your area, identify your polling station, form polling committees for two reasons. Number one, to ensure that the 900 people on that polling station come to vote. Number two, that the vote is protected. You know, why is it now lepend? And you ensure that the accredited uh the accredited uh uh polling officials from party, the party agents are not chased by the UPND. So you ought to be present there to protect the vote. What is your view? Is Munduwile leading in this race? What is your view between Akainde Hilema? I would have said two months ago, President Akainde Hilema had no political opponent. And he used to joke that there's no opposition, and that's a narrative they had. But in the last just barely two months, we've seen a huge groundswell for the opposition. And I can put my risk here that so far, 37 days before, unless something happens, Mundu Vile is leading. And what's your view? Let's hear from you.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:56

And um, because looking at uh what is happening here, I think there's too much money being involved. If MP were MP sparring candidates are being uh introduced to money, they're given money, they're paid off. Amber, you have started, you have stood your ground, you have shown your loyalty, you have shown that your interest is not your belly, your interest is to save the people because I know these people they have your number, they can reach you or they have reached you. But you have decided no. At the point, you even discussed Brand when he did Jama shortcut, or what you wanted to do was to do the right thing. You did not discuss him in a negative way to say no, he's a sellout. You said the process was bad, and today you stand strong and the Lord bless you for this uh noble call that you're doing. Oh, and I like a note, since you started with uh with uh introducing, telling the people how the UPND, or rather how PF has done in the Western province. Indeed, PF has done a very good job. But I just wanted to say that I think uh most Zambians don't know the brainer between uh the brainer or behind the Zambia Link 8000 that is Emmanuel Mamba. Why do you take time and educate people so that they know how patriotic you are? The project that you have spoken to and they have come to pass. That the real brainer of uh 8,000 or whatever link is coming to the issues of politics, Bran Mgulow is leading the race because this is a man who has just is a born again, who has just resurfaced under all the oppressions and all the pushing, the arrestment, and all those things. Things we didn't even know that brand would be this popular. But brand today has come out very strong and so far is doing very well. Ambassador, allow me to speak about um van uh what do you call this uh violence in UPND, which I feel that this is something that we need to spend time to speak to. UPND has been a part of violence from a way back in Mfungwe, PFD did not participate, uh I think that was 2000 plus, uh, way back. UPFD did not participate in the election, it was UPND and MD. We saw the people died, we saw the bloodshed. That time there was no much phones like today, but if you if the papers newspapers such as the uh post and they were capturing those images, which means things were very disturbing. So UPND has been a very violent uh political party. Then let us not forget Mapatizia formula. Mapatiza formula was a UPND, it is a UPND uh slogan which is being used to kill and fight people, most special during this time. In 2020, in 2016 and 2020 uh 2014 and 2016, we know people who were deplaced who were killed in Southern province. The young brother to Sande Chanda today, how foolish this man may be, can be. He was killed in Southern Province when the head is a brother to Sande Chanda, he was killed. So I am so I'm so proud, I'm so grateful to God that today we're having a political party which is campaigning at the highest level, which is a party and the brand that has got no regardia. So UPND never money can but uh the only this is the only devil in town. Because if UPND, if uh the the team of brand and makedi had the at the rigaria, they could have been wearing those regaria and painting uh the uh UPN would have been getting those regardia and using them, kill people, and do all those things. But now, this is what even other people are saying that indeed, he might say uh remarks, indeed, HH is a Satanist. Because there's no way people are dying. There's even one soul, Ediga Chagwarungu, said I choose to give power. There are people who went to ECO and tell him to say no, please hold on to power. ECO said no, and I don't want anyone to die because of me wanting to be in the office. But you can see this man wanting to be in office, people are dying. Already four people have been killed. Sometimes we have to rise and condemn this act. Lastly, please, Mambasa Conkomen Shua, but everyone, this is an everyday call that we should protect our votes. Some God, we have seen Kambiri Max coming on board and many others. This is what I say, what I said even the other day that anyone who is not part and parcel of this project, such as I mentioned, I mentioned these are the projects of UPND. And you then will say, mm-mm, let me belong, let me jump and come as of now. I'll consider them as project of UPND. Thank you.

SPEAKER_25 1:25:04

Okay, thank you very much. Let's speak more calls.

SPEAKER_20 1:27:36

That's a fun choice that would be fun to go blind.

SPEAKER_25 1:28:00

Very much. Hello, Cola. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution.

SPEAKER_17 1:28:06

I'm calling you from Osaka.

SPEAKER_26 1:28:08

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_17 1:28:10

Good evening, uh.

SPEAKER_26 1:28:12

Good evening.

SPEAKER_17 1:28:15

Uh Master Emmanuel Mamba, I I've been following you quite closely. And I was listening to your explanation about uh how the PF uh worked so well in Western province. I think you must be commended for that. And uh to be honest, uh as a member of the UPND, I I will I will as a matter of fact, uh I would like to commend PF for their crossed efforts where roads are concerned. You you did a good job on that score. I would score our I would like to commend you. However, to suggest that uh the UPND is going to lose these elections because they've not done quite so well in uh the so-called the places you in your view, the places you're considering that they are strongholds for UPND, it is quite unfair. The UPN has only been in government for four years plus. And if you look at their trajectory, I think they've scored quite heavily in this country. It was an expected of UPND to have achieved at least 85% of the campaign promises, which they managed to do in a space of four years and a few months. Okay, and also to suggest that UPND is only strong in western, northwestern, and uh and southern province, it's so it's not strong. It is not true. I live in Osaka myself. Okay, if you see the momentum, uh the UPND is very popular in Gosaka. Uh, I was in garden compound uh yesterday and part of today. And when you listen to people carefully, people know to say that there's a clear distinction between the PF, the sorry, uh, the Tonse Alliance led by Mumbu Vile and UPND. And the major difference is that this political part has only been in power for a special four and they've achieved 85% of the promises they made to the people in 2021.

SPEAKER_26 1:30:38

My dear, my dear brother, my dear brother, I don't want to rebut or take your time. Um, when you say they've achieved 85%, what do you mean? Because the um the all analysts will tell you that uh the trouble with the president is he's making promises when he has not fulfilled up to 90 percent of his uh promises in the first stage. Okay, for example, the you know, he promised that minimum will be 50 quadra, you know the price of minimum. He said that fuel will be at 12 quadra, you know how much fuel it is per liter. He said the exchange rate will come down to 12 quadra, you know where the exchange rate is. He promised that fertilizer, you know, will be costing 250 quadra and will be giving so many people so many bags, you know. People in their analysis say the president's promise up to 90 percent he has not fulfilled from his first term and is already making fresh promises. What do you say to that?

SPEAKER_17 1:31:43

Okay, so my my honest response, Mr. Mwamba, to that is that uh let's start with the the the the issue of the price of uh millimeter in this country. Uh you know that uh uh uh in 2023, the 2023-2024 funding season, we had a drought. Okay, this drought was not expected. This was a natural disaster, okay? So this affected the what the the the UPND promised, okay? It affected the price because it was a natural occurrence that you can do.

SPEAKER_26 1:32:19

The PF the UPN yeah, just a minute, just a minute there. Yeah, just a minute, just on just on on the drought. The PF had the worst drought in 30 years in 2015, 2017, and 2019. And in fact, the drought in 2023 was predicted, you know, because they own you and this effect comes every every 10 years. So they said we had the worst one in 2015. The one that was coming in 2023-2024 was predicted.

SPEAKER_17 1:32:54

Okay. Um, the the the difference again when you talk about the drought of PF and the drought of UPND, is uh we can put it in a context. You took over the government, it's particular part in the name of MMT. When you took over in 2011, so it was not as it was in 2021. Remember that uh when she took over company he needed to stabilize the he needed to have economic recovery, he needed to stabilize the economy. None of that needed to happen under the PS because the economy was good from the MMD, the the culture was performing well, uh, the economy was good, the the the the the farming seasons before 2011 were good. So you took over from a very good government where the economy is concerned.

SPEAKER_26 1:34:02

And again, again, my brother, because I'm privileged that you are calling from the other side, and let's just have a decent conversation. When President Akainde Hilema took over, he had foreign reserves of $3.1 billion, he had um um maize reserves that would last him two to three years, he had uh um uh infrastructure development laid for him in the last 10 years. So the story that they took up took up a bankrupt economy or a struggling economy may not be true.

SPEAKER_17 1:34:39

It is very true, it is very true, uh Ambassador Ibanba, that uh when UPND took over government in 2021, the economy was very, very bad. We were ushered in the negative, if not for President Hakende, if not for President Hakande becoming president in 2021, I don't know where this country would have been today.

SPEAKER_26 1:35:04

Okay, again the records there show, my brother. The records show the only time Zambia has ever recorded negative growth was in 2020. By 2021, just Google now, even as we are talking, you'll find that Zambia was posting economic growth of 4.5 percent.

SPEAKER_17 1:35:22

But do you know the reason now now do you know the reason why towards 2021 the economy started uh going up? Or it was because of the it was because of the confidence that the investors started placing in our economy, knowing for a fact that we're going to have a regime change in the next few months.

SPEAKER_26 1:35:43

No, no, no. In fact, in fact, all analysts all analyst Sishua Sishua and all credible analysts didn't see the win by the UPND. Oh come on, you can't insult Sishua Sishua like that. There is there is no Zambian whose writings are published in the New York Times, Melan Guardian in South Africa, in newspapers in London and in France. You are burying your heads in the sun.

SPEAKER_17 1:36:21

Objectivity should stem on uh Ambassador Mamba. Objectivity should stem from being a Zambian who lives in Zambia, who understands the challenges of Zambia, so as well that it live in Zambia, for us to conclude that it's an objective.

SPEAKER_26 1:36:40

No, my brother, no, let me thank you. Please make your concluding remarks of all the lines are on. Please make your concluding remarks and thank you for calling. Make your concluding remarks.

SPEAKER_17 1:36:50

In conclusion, in conclusion, uh, I would like to urge the Zambian people to be very objective. And give him a vote in the next uh election on the 13th of August because he has achieved like anything 85% of the promises he made to the Zambian people is given free education, stabilized the economy, is make sure that the political atmosphere in the country is good. Even though we can see this commitment, immediately we record such this is there is uh uh serious police action, and there's also directive from the president to ensure that the presentators are brought to book. Thank you very much, Ambassador Manga.

SPEAKER_26 1:37:37

Thank you, thank you for your thoughts, my brother. Thank you very much. I'm grateful. I'm grateful, thank you. All right, thank you. Hello, caller, please tell us your name and where you're calling us from. Uh sorry I took long because uh the caller that I think required attention. Make your contribution.

SPEAKER_21 1:37:53

Thank you. Uh good evening, Ambassador Manga.

SPEAKER_26 1:37:57

Good evening.

SPEAKER_21 1:37:59

Uh remain anonymous.

SPEAKER_26 1:38:01

Anonymous, make your contribution.

SPEAKER_21 1:38:04

Yes.

SPEAKER_22 1:38:04

So um I know that you pnd is too popular. Then I would have popularity based on my t shirt. Name vote vote a fiakash. We interact in Avantuava San Absana. I am a salon, and I interact with more than ten ladies in a day. Ambassador Mambalantu Vadina. Avantuval in a canfilma market mummy nga mwengi, Avantu, Vareti, in a command wakwe, who take over each pancha, but you both have violence and intimidation. So Avantua tiny filipanshiamutima. And even when you start a conversation in Avena asking if you're politics based on the candidates they are supporting. First, when you stand out confidently that you're supporting Brian, or come out because Varatina. We can fit a child, Makovata wish the person you're standing next to. So when I kati fina for a pitabele for my guardia, for a reader, what no meeting I don't know about zero and then na ma campaign I left the masano for watchland zulu could wing. What was a pofe my uniform? No cleranda and that free education. Free education, but it's the brainwasher, I want to push the black mewa, want to kill some beam not as the n gives that summers. So when an free education above niapos, the benefits never share mona what quality of education is being provided by this government. When I kwa nofe school, we have a fida fe me, which chap omana sambi lachavare monokwebati, delivery some bidoma school mmubade or more free edi chan. Free education in a taya capwe. If we have pila na my own form, we're the bakapirana pirival feed. If to the four chakovati, awan tub memory. Twadi churchan, especially if one dinuma businesses yadiya page to a churano kupuluka. Bamland wakwebati, dola ngware tuevati pona, itrasia tuare oltuareo da kali. Era economy overte mokyo wa Pariona wide economy vadi merit economy and bad. But when COVID nineteen impact yashama economy zianu chalganishware fuaki ngenswa. Awesi, but wadi di desine forbade brand mund campaign trails the law kula shiniwa and kushini no rubu teko for wwala idi. Badi clayro mungabuwa fifty kwat echa dengrati to ba voted. Ero rubu di wamakadasba twa pweva kwa tolu, butinobanat mono kwa chibbe neva deva rubu, kaibe neva shidinach kashka kuudi. Elo yi nea magadi when a mundu edifena win opwe twa kui tam ed. So max chungo, where it numba mudi ba ababa joi neva inarapi. Kulukulandabma vlog mumam Facebook page ya wam anambo kuch studi group womakadas bawa where eight tolu woody. But manerach kadiman shava navenabadim the numba cadiman shini vanjadisim ya kwadi satwara mudi U B N D. Ah, we neva uh Ambassador Mwamba.

SPEAKER_26 1:42:12

Thank you, my dear sister. Thank you very much. Let's pick some more cause. Um uh let's pick some more cause. Hello, caller, please tell us your name and where you are calling us from and make your contribution.

SPEAKER_14 1:42:24

Hello, good evening, Ambassador Damwamba.

SPEAKER_26 1:42:27

Good evening.

SPEAKER_14 1:42:29

Uh, this is Didi from Mundola.

SPEAKER_26 1:42:31

Didi, make your contribution.

SPEAKER_14 1:42:34

Okay. Well mwamba first see na na chifumapu. Kutuasika. Tu ale dia, tuale kwa tempia moba wine shale ku kwa tamwanu piniete. Ishani fesha kuchita business, not the sino wareba jiubashad. Ba mwwamba lunanguanu gwanku moba ku tunimpana koini. Bajida ekonomi swe twaale pluku ta washa tu business. Wata manga ta manga, wayapana konde wale. Yabusta business, you no sta wapana konde kuibira. Ishuala kapita mpariumwotum pia kubantu. Ba mwamba. Elo, ififo uh kwe na u kweka disha sana, panchendi mukulabatu wabali la ta. Bale ndav, awantu, background dinabachi. Ba di chinjaka leva leba tamba fi myoto kasa w kashirane fili mba file dile fiavo. Bale ba lole shabale batina, ukulaba sele no musevone yyoto kashab. Oko batina nikwe si swe nineteen sixty fourkwusafika twenty twenty six u tam pokula mti na imungabam kwati. Mimunduvi na makebi yengide a la bandula uikele mwodi musho kualei sani nafium ma shiof. Ale sia nafia fuma mwebantuwa kwa lesfitale sa. Ftales samu di tum si fila vefia ivela. Le sangalaku itafye, ale ta koling ilesa. Munduvies koling na makebi. Uku fumafio muntu mfile fio lungo kuwa kuti kanangu kamu anaka no. Talatemwa. Nakamfu tniwa niababa ne subafia kashita ni shekumana kala mutuka kwat male kata babale kata kutubakumma. Namisumalaya kwe. Ikunamina ivipa. Avantu male layensala. Bamwangri kamma kumbo ni mumwa inden mamuleria, malwati maledia, kudama siledia, kuula sha kwatamala, ama sha kwatamalandia kulima. E fama letueba bodia twa le nga ba tualandati. Uwungga, bulise mavalet tuwa kiye mushatukala ye misevo. Tem papa nga papa wakuloma. Mise boba di shanku la isiye, wakula ne sha pamulu, akula malevo, wanuma na wamtu, me iso restin peace na gutabala mushika. A mwomba polisi mtenga sale me napone fi mutti. Isi eo. Uku womba. Nikwe soma na wamuntuale ingira nga ingilamu mummisho kuwa mfu to kun kuba kote aikala nabakote ale landanabu. Mfoku swa twiakuman. Mm battu chuliz reti fi. Apoma fika baladi ni se dfu free education. Free education tapa nunggafika ta kolokof nyakofyu. Sidifu taikumani. Ema si dfu yabamuamba i poka beka. Namanefu ibale tene. Ba plezand to ba mla si diafu yakubantu wzakashi yasakubantu babu. Abantubabu awa baka ykurika na kumatishu. Ubu shukakaf mapufiba mwambaba. Baka y kurika na kumatishu, kukuwa febakuete. Kudisidi fantuwa ledi ya veka. Ukupokama singa presidenti. Abinumama minister kwachu libabi. Mwaba mole ngweba nemu male filifia kuino. Filife, bati mone shwa eating. Fife wino, you are eating. Abantuvaletasaf, vale shula. Numba mwamu levan twelve years yapu. Abankoale. President, makabu neni, makabia ni na mundu. Oh, baskale satuasukaniu kuba mwamba tuale landa, ukuchi la mole to nasha nwa vi alu ni katane. Savai katan. Ama lelanda ta kwa opposition. Tha opposition you, and shitoku la ilanda pu. Ukulai landa putabinga kuti nafulunga na le to kanafe. Tatuishi uapaladi mukulaibo muntu nisalula tobantuku kubomba. Abantuba mobajba pompa samabanga chavinga. A lelanda fakua mselufu adifwanokwamya kapenda maji bridge. Ah, difokubomba kumu complet. E muntu fungalava tsi muntu chavinga, yoni chavinga, chavinga fibana fibra bantuba nola yu p nd. Bananga badam lachu pndi, the bawwami shabadia, mouse sampaba engisha titefi, also ma kukuya ykumia boy sana kukuya yaku. Uko mw samu kumava musician ybaba bula tigerodi inefy. Batum poka fiango a lava fwala nifotumu kumi twed. Oh pedi aqualation. U mpedji tani shwat five. Mishina wasungapu. But I mutu ako sabushabala komediani kua bula munto umunko ba ku di judy ba yati judishani abafole fala efulu, eko ba m kuchtakumi to ku politician badya. Wa politician ababa echababena a vena lit be ba echabadia. God bless them balava echavadabana, koba singaba, bangabalon tava singu. Eva politician, bada my influencer. Nasareba pala, bala enda febon sungemun baleshta pampen, mwebantusungenyama votas gati. Basein, le kentuka yevika poba muntu hile. Lama kebi, tusunyye pwa bantu, takwa bo kulai paya bantu ifiku yakuma goi. Kuma goyu kususula u lomuntu kwa tinyin koko. Fira si ya ba nibu no ta kukulandako. Kwa kapapu tabe kabe kaba lua, kwa kapaputabay mi kati yo mi meni mumilachika kampen. U do zati. Pantufu mwamu neba shutasha, or imwwenis. Kutuma ibi kolu ba dimaba isizet. Na vesya mami zio on senabesha. Kongratrasha ni mamu wantuma ke binaba mutubiata mwa kwa ta yga gabadi nifwik sendoko ku diababa ba ivo, ababanama dimons. Nomba kwa na mulea ma gimons ya pomzan de pantana mletazambana dimoni kikudi ymu. Kungo pamu andapumadimu yonga padea kuvota. Kungokum youngga quatika twish. Mulang western kula west and kwa pom ten de win. Tapwam chipungia fidi, ekari wino. Ne stand town fuloko manakashi wam stasha nowanga fila fili tali kuli kung. Tabonfuya fokoya.

SPEAKER_26 1:49:24

Thank you, thank you, Mario, thank you. Thank you very much. Hello, caller, please tell us your name and where you are calling us from and make your contribution.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:34

Hello, good evening, Ambassador Mamba.

SPEAKER_26 1:49:37

Good evening.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:38

I am quite putting quite more calling for you. Now I can contribute to what you think about. To fish. No, by near challenge gun to make questions ready at Luna Kotika. No, but to me PND, Balondor, if you eighty five percent yeah, mechanic peer from Nocharo. Immobez by U Pamila by U PND. Immobile and Dumeso Commodica, just hope I must continue Kotika, Tamulika if we box the point of land that much upon you. Ganamusta continue kotica, you are a good citizen, bleaching and bass. But why do you think kupian kupia? If you ba UPND Mwach Tire, Palianama elections. Ayoba PF Kutunguanaba Lungu Basali Foxariac to Baalikafi, Batala reaction to. Kui won na umbium poxuma. Nomba, you mamwean that Iba Kainde the UPND na mata awake eighty five percent. Since mwarianaula the three arms of the state, there is no way you can achieve eighty-five percent of the state. But parliament, mwarian big shit, ba opposition uku landila. Mmu parliament wa mu ground of immunity, mwa yuma jint senga, mwa dishiri mkuik, mwa di ngele, wa, mwa mlandu, wa the current independent elady president, uh, mwawa pasangan semi kalile mwya chalura kumbi. Ba opposition mwya kawali kamuena, umu parliament ya kalemya kalemyaka ba ba ba ba ba speaker banel boti na ba assistantu wa uba thewa umeba moyo, they were ruling that uh uh parliament quati nika company come first cousins. You know first cousins are city people too with each other, you understand? Efobalete kaya. No, but she fancika mse compete na bu seveny when they muttiba wesha, no to fiok till she concoti change conco I'm sorry, con continue national assembly by a wesha mbaka bu seven yeah pita. Now require the picture yeah pa youtube uko ba ba justice minister bakasune, by the mkulandana one of the chiefs northern Zambia, uko ba London we la, if you change picture bu seven. If you have UPN D, and that's the five percent since they broke the three arms of the state. Klasse now, I'm standing outside. In just disrupting the three arms of the state, but I appreciate all the Zambians having me to fumble. If you're 85% of whatever mlepen gangwas down, you need to fix the matter in the way I've known the peace in Zambia, in the way I've known the constitution of Zambia, of white one we need. So in my wiam, that 85% me five years. But a fire by sawing Kamso Gamino. I am for a tropical queer yellow, queer red. Can you come to a katambala takus? Mo African Zambia and Kauchi Tambala Kufirro. Now Kuchin or Chia Kuruku in the Kumako Autwa, Takuli Akamba Kumu to Balam Sokawida. No boy, Tai Chanakochiro, Mueva Lenge if you're bamba, taba help from me kaliupachuko. Now Tabakoitimpia, what am I trying to say mili pinda? N de sanava president. Why would I have been a Zambia who would take on Takalifu Malamitra? Eh, Utah Table Mister Fisuma kufumiapu marita po wombinga wait a five percent mabapila niesa, pantule and quitatu. Pant konotulelanda, kupatata kua womuti. Bantu no kupano tulelanda ba minister hevalava na myo ba kulanzi, badena, ma ifon tena fiamiti, kufamu, umafamu, umutiwa kuika mpatala, munchendia ptiba di pima diamati preachers, kuba panapa, imati five percent ye wombeka. This government has a lot of errors that to poet woman samfway. Umgana land is three arms of the state, bad you know ka inde, chaplainish a paliu pindi. A pakma felt in a family, not pen the shania. Mim pendela pendela balilanda to kabalando na to chin the canalati pali ku you. I can tell you pali uteko pari umai mini la sana palupa. I know fiambo kum kosela. I have one side that we can wide mkuba vote lamu. If to a shala to late kwa nava pif. To free don't la pitulula mu fe in fifty tontulu, te pamela do la yamueka, that which temu. In a colo on say I can even say I eat. But I pepe a candidate to women in a party opposition party. Ewba Yama Konso Kobuli. Have you ever been in this Zambia? Uko opposition Ila challenge one of our ruling party, Ukulavali Pia. Corruption by Ngin State House Baka in Gatbalai Pusha Niza Panteba in a corruption which any won't say to them about cheni emwafati corruption. Uh super shafts. He is the one corrupting everybody. Did you watch the incoming MP from Lundazu Central Babrenda Nirenda? Uko valu ku radio, kaizet radio something. At this government approached her. Atiba never vice president. Won't wash a new young washawta complice. Ah, nyantila PF and is limited in thinking and planning. We want to let us appoint at 25 years, taikwene. Nish I ping you within uh uh I'll fix it, I'll fix it. We shall add limit. According to him, twenty four hours they are in it. That's why he's surprised that utu pani, utu no longer ka N R P U P Kabuka Ferello, Bayama, for any must be much. A day is like a thousand years, and a thousand before the Lord, and before the Lord, a thousand years are like a day. Who despises the day of small things? Ukute moko social, ukute moko shabba name like the palukobenga. Even now he's calling his fellow opposition leaders, his opposition leaders at his small boys. But you have small boys. Now when you want to. Now feature some kuchinum dechindamapinda. Please move a pinday. Because the chemical quota drawn line. So it's a support president, Haka in the movie Kongata is a sampia. But every contact, look at his campaign mode. If we're an northern as the Navakunu, Apula Konso one, at twalipata, ababaku nos western, to a pila kuga to a fiakua, kata pombosh kutia, toa katanavishkulukuya, carrying son names from there. Soapata Shani Bale Bandu. One, two. He comes in province the question. He starts telling us at it. Moleba United. Vane, uyumu Timawaifi Muzambia, Tuakana, Tulelandapamuela Atonine Anonymous Wakabuta. I am with Zambia and we say national registration card. Naningram system. Nangile Mokale napukele registration card. Ngana riba mu registration card system yazambia. Chishina lay identify at the anonymous Bamwela. And because the side ballow. I re found the side balloon every casu. Yashani. Eh, my payao na mayo of me no copper belty, part of Zambia of Makota Twishiwa wino mwampipayo shiku. I need wrong action. I feel my katushi parts have gone missing. Instantly mob justice papa and papa pawutuba mi paya. You touching following it up. Those things embabayamo koko mori are ugly things. I'm spitting Pamela What take a wash and you walk. Avantibali for what to nearele. Avanti inway, we have no two, three, four Zambias to go to. Avantiba to kabaya much, foreign lands. Uti na Landasanaba Chikata. Na pasiumtu a kuila kali, kumikata. Bekafaka indeva kwata genuin riches. Kimamu followersiamo. Tule tino kulando kwande chishin katibala sanchikata. Kwaka putakuna mpepeka mp west to be tali kalako. Campaign wamuntubire ba perina pansa. Ku wekalako. Elochukha, what kind of a human being is this a ka inde molechsa support himwe? Look, how many children do you have and grandchildren? Brakubakese, under government, Asha, Asha Foundation, yeah. A landati, upon my kala mcharo. Ninety days ewa pella campaign period. Ninety days ya tampa, talechar blow the whistle for campaign. Okay, ya tampa lit. Ya tampa lete mukati. Aya putukila, bambina wea kwisana kwisa, aya wwesha. Yo, uko andita kuikubakona fingbi fine. But she na shukwa putukisha wala shukwekishia poi. Ewenda fini nendekeka mwela. It's not so true that other opposition leaders the baku temkesha and kinawa kwata. But it ifund the air force commander u captain taliyasuka bama opposition parties in kabalomba kukti to kwa air clearance. I don't blame that air force commander. Chief, commander in chief of the Zambia Masoldja Masoldja Nibahaka inde right now. That's Minisha. Abu kwa vela campaign yaku haka indemiaka nemiyaka. He jets around Zambia, he flies around helicopters, mosambia kunsa naya, mmalungu kunsa di pita. Ala landing hakonse. Numba winaba nanke chaka na mwenta kwitana gressya barisa. All these things he's doing a cru sa kualeru samangi tokalipa ifwenakumwana wantufuwa. Wa mwana ku muntu kuya mui pay na pakucha karimba, akalimba kalipa chani or ia ku kebbi any, uluimbobaleni shaku chano ya kebbi andaveshi wedakofimo, only to be toldu in bulila e ingele makebi angilis o makebi angile mundile mob justice panopenia zandamuka, or one person a dinna announce by takumule kataku bantubati no kataku baka mpuma to two three days afwa. Nim Pasasha ni iso. Treat a garin combo. Iba myama konsoko kumbuena run through all these wrong things we've seen amma opposition leaders, now my supporters, the mistreatment they have suffered. Nga mulenja batina mupia for chali, then you are not a good citizen. Nga kwadi u pumbo, kwaju u nangwa, kudian kulo. Nakali inuya kwaka inde. Haka indu must change things so that we give them a credit to say ku twali zenpo twenty twenty-one, twenty twenty, twenty twenty-six, twenty thirty-one. Twam pale and sambu pantuam na five na fiva the bambi bat today, that wan wake shapu. Even in families it's like that. Mungandango le kula, wa wiso nevanukata kukanye chin echi, ba vi ka poftia winu in awa inokule chipulusana mu yanganda chipum which klu, such that even the village will know kweba teachi chipwam sumba. Younganda, but in the same house they'll come distinctive children. Baxana question. If you have they will quickly say, Alamunga di mutiahu pofiwahu biamuntu through our fia shukana must correct. No, baba kainde, he can't even allow to be corrected. Go away to correct bad because I decide baluba saw the cali sayamba in your saying by your PND Nabaca achieve eighty-five percent of their works in five years, woofy. Maybe Muladia could South Africa. You could not judge, can we are judge?

SPEAKER_26 2:03:15

Thank you, Bye. Thank you very much. We'll be closing soon to allow. You know, we are watching football, we are staying late, so we need to time for people to uh wind up the program. So you know, but what much I want to kutamba bola. Hello, caller. Please tell us your name and where you are calling us from and make your contribution.

SPEAKER_08 2:03:36

Good evening, Ambassador Munge Chari Kale Sana. Ambassador, Ambassador Papa. Mindamba President, we step in a voice.

SPEAKER_26 2:07:52

Thank you very much. Hello, Cola. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution.

SPEAKER_06 2:07:59

Hello, Bamwamba Mwabum Benny. Okay. Thank you so much, Vamwamba. We say that one word is enough for a wise man, which simply means a very brief warning or explanation is enough for an intelligent person. Why am I saying so? I'm referring to Mr., who had just uh given a very good analysis about the PF. Eloy sounded to be so much intelligent, and I do respect him very much. Yes. Lelochwandefokulanda Chakwebati, please brainwashung. It doesn't mean that everyone has enough to eat. If we are ordinary Zambians, I hope, and you had actually had a you really, you know, contend yourself very much because you had to give an explanation and I do respect him very much. Don't talk about numbers. I disagree so much, and I'm actually urging you and your team to give the vote to Tonse Alliance. I age you so much and do not pretend, please twa mi papata. Do not bring numbers. Look at the ordinary Zambian. Look how people are suffering. Go around, go everywhere. Mumu nefia michaba derapidated di umabantubapita. Ichawe che switch a Zambia. Kelusaka, yeka, trepta makayro rodit. At no, we've got a great lusaka. Mwapita kona compoundi. Mwamlanifiya wantubaika, mumwinemulusakomu. Go around and see how people live. Na mi papa tatata. Elo mwila ta dika ba mwamba ba mwamba is a very good analyzer. Elotawesa ba mwamba mukulande fia bulebule, ba lande findwifikankala. So please tua mi papata. Imue me imwe, imwe, you've misled baaka inde could be a very good president, but tamubeve fishinka. Elo imwe, you are scared. You are so much scared of fooking down. Muleba wa president if shinka. Mulebe fishinka wa president. Nam se ga nya ba president. Ba mwambifa naja fokulanda. Thank you very much.

SPEAKER_26 2:11:43

Thank you, thank you very much. I'll take the last course we need to go to allow you to watch football and it's a couple fields.

SPEAKER_00 2:12:17

For example, if it's in a book if you have my reaction. So I wanted to mean a quene and a Pemini but is really captain a chance. So we don't share.

SPEAKER_26 2:13:46

Thank you. Thank you. I'll find out from I'll find out from the leadership people after you. I thought they had resolved it.

SPEAKER_00 2:14:02

Nobody shouldn't finish.

SPEAKER_26 2:14:03

I'm quiet. I'll find out from the yeah. Alo Cola, please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution.

SPEAKER_15 2:14:12

Ambassador Mwamba, good evening.

SPEAKER_26 2:14:14

Good evening.

SPEAKER_15 2:14:17

Sorry for the Egyptians. Even me, I was supporting Egypt, but it was heartbreaking. Sorry, I've a body for fee. But Mwamba De Firefi Dundee Panono Kuti Aba Nakufialua after 2020, 2001. And the Western understanding the way we have moved in this Afghan politics to be where we are, and today we have the president in the name of uh President Haga in the Himba. It is very important 2019. The movement of multi-party democracy is being formed read by interim chairman, the late Asawina. Together with the brother Maskotawina. These are noble people who were trying to save the Zamian people, regardless where they came from. Today we have got the princess Akashamba to Ali Kutawina Iliwanika and the one big Kachitala. These were pioneer who drafted the MMD uh manifesto and part of MD Constitution. I'm saying this because our current president is using regional tribes to undermine others. So, our name, how did we move from that? When Kawunda is after the election of 2019, he introduced Mount Pat. But Asawina stand who was supposed to become the president through his brother Scotawina and they allowed Chuluba to stand. Now I'm saying this where did Chuba come from? Chuba came from province. Where did Atawina and Scotawina were precedent? Western province. We are giving former prime minister in the United government who was part of MMD, who was the elect house from Lember. Alawa knows born out of Micho and realized to identify the leadership of president. 201 proceed and stand for the state table. The people from the including myself, who was a district chairman for the partner district, opposed to what to go for the state table. I was very close with the late. People like Elisum Elizabeth Stika. Lot of people came from Wapula, opposed to my state table, including Genomi and the From Western Province Christoph, including Felice Tamaram was a legal minister and local government minister the legal part of the channel. So you can see, even Daring Combo as part of MMD, you can see that when somebody who is a leader that regards from the region where they come from to condemn. Now, today we have a person who has got no history, not even their parents. Now the constitution allows him to become the president. Now the challenge I'm facing Lambahi. Who is the president? Who is the person? Oh, the constitution has allowed him to become the president. He is trying to undermine the universe which our forefather created from the Ari Mangan Kumbula to even Churuba to even Manawasa to Pia Banda Edgarungu is trying to use regional politics without justification. And today we have people who come to your platform, start talking about HHSC, achieve 80%. Today we are 617.5 billion. That is tenor. But HSW is the post that Nava Qata 6.5 billion in the reserve. You have to pay the credit inconvenient to what you can of county. The whole progress and intelligence of the people of Southern Province. People of Southern Province. And becoming forced in the oil in the world's future for the people of Southern Province. And also our brothers from other regions, we rejected this estate form because we didn't, it was not supported by the constitution, neither even the same people. Whatever H is doing should do, if it's doing a collective thing, support it.

SPEAKER_26 2:22:16

We'll be taking the last cause.

SPEAKER_07 2:22:46

Oh, what I can say about this issue of figures is this issue of figures which people talk about. People might have money, but this money is only in a few people. It might be foreigners or the these friends to the people in the ruling party. But the rest of the Zambian, an ordinary Zambian on the street there doesn't have the money, doesn't have an income, doesn't have uh food on the table. So this issue of figures people talk about is really misleading. You can have you can say Zambians are very rich, but maybe only half of the Zambians are rich. The rest of the people, they are poor. So this issue of figures is neither here or there. Then maybe the other thing also I would like to advise, because I just tuned in, I was on a long journey, I haven't been following up today, is on the issue for our raris, the Tose Bamoszi Raris. Of course, there's an improvement that now. Before that, the the issue for the microphone, I think we need to talk about it. Usually it's very difficult to get what the president's uh the the speakers are saying. But at least for in the last one week, I think there's a bit of improvement like from the first one. But we still need to do more in terms of uh the P the P the PI system of the Joseph Laris. We have to work on those things. I think if there are people listening, they should I who who put up those PI systems, they should really work on them so that if we are able to hear the speakers are audible enough to be heard. I think those are the two contributions I can make. I was on a long journey. I ever brother there was an issue of figures.

SPEAKER_26 2:24:51

Thank you. Hello, Cola. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make a contribution.

SPEAKER_05 2:24:57

Hello? Hello, and Jitamaya Shani. I will know Mrs. Nyambe from Chingola.

SPEAKER_26 2:25:06

Mrs. Nyambe, make your contribution.

SPEAKER_05 2:25:10

You know, Abantu Balanda wino sana kuena monochung. We have a president that is very, very divisive. Because vote for me so that we don't go back to you people being beaten as soon as you get off the bus at Intercity. Uko baya kus Kongo, nakweena baya landa chimochini. Uno mu Zambia, that is why we have carried over the slogan of one Zambia, one nation. Because that is what our independence fathers taught us. And we don't want to go away from that. Tatuatala tumfu apokeba tumutonga, afmaku southern provincy, ayaku northern province Baamaba mwipaya. Tatuatala tumfuapokweba tu mubemba, afmaku northern nankuapula provincy, ayaku western province ba mwipaya. Tatuatala tumfuapokeba tumuntu afma kuest and provincy, bayamu baakw eastern province because of tribe. We have never killed one another since the time of the tribal wars. So no babe nava president, ididiashi yukobarefu nyanikwisa. Defwa wantunom Zambia Bonfuikishe. Besh be muntunga le takapaturula. Mweve andemwevantuwe Ikala wino nishitava wino. Nga wanish to wala vote anakabi. Especially wava chisa to say no, vote for HH. Bon sabale wum for we are not voting for HH. Because ngatuamupera nine five years, we are going to be divided. Uungabala and jokewa tbaka wishapali fifty kwatia uliqui. Few of all and jokewa tbaka wishapari ten quarter iriki. Dollar bala and quacha ykalacha trade a ten quarter to a dollar siriqui. Fionsefia bufeka feka. And he must not lie umkuwa tino load shading, but PF load shading. Echo yeah, reload shedding, yes, but it was for two hours, for three hours. The longest we went without power under the patriotic front was six hours. Not the load shading without shame, we have 20 hours without power, 16 hours without power. Avanti if you are and he can come back and lie to us again. He has even forgotten, in case the people of Zambia are forgotten. Our president came on air and told us the information to say when it is June, the experts in Zesco, the engineers, they tell the government to say this is how much water we have, and we can only regenerate so much power between June and December before the rains come. And that's how they know how to manage the load shedding. No Mbavena. Even when they were advised to say this is how much water that we have, and this is how much power we can generate, and this is how much power we can give to Zambians. They're still sold at the expense of the Zambians.

SPEAKER_26 2:28:45

Thank you, Maya. Thank you very much.

SPEAKER_05 2:29:19

Taxi drive aim cero cello, bus drive aimuchero cero, uone womba move, aima chero cero. Na businessman wina ima luchero cero. Utumualanda chimibanangani. Alumnangani deforabantu won fixeta kwa umnangani unangani untu alala fie no kuria chiapua. Muna muzambia tatua banangani tulabombe sha. We can you cannot actually put wealth to hard work. Both a person that is rich and a person that is poor, they all work hard at their own level. Canushao, I wobe and true to tikoku abantuare pikam.

SPEAKER_26 2:30:11

Thank you very much. Hello, colour. Please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution.

SPEAKER_08 2:30:40

Mamu Pera no kuwa jam yoko na pali licage, orbasa bona. Efe tiri pacharu e chibba ech kuriba etika rungu. Valiba pere lekage, no kuingira naena mw exam. Wainalangrevi. Baedika rungu valia. Bali pekenye fe triza yea two season. Ba vali peganya two two. E program wea mama PFC po fetriza na in two years. Maliba shidi ne fe traizer yea twenty twenty-one. Nina twenty twenty-two. Ivalu. No took maksawdian labia. If ye mumma depots made sang. Fidi wandi sanva. Iutana kwa chamu kwete chilana for fi years. A manituku valadi again wali sama she na kuna kopa mies my poka my shak channel. Mam pani kopa mies my poka my shak channalo. Madi sana wo nicen a mali sh impress. Misa ma shama pang. Mama pangina mic my teach. Mama pangina. Mm s police my police money. Mamma police in a mini money. Bitumak be my pick my police. Migration feed. If you randamu kicku. I wish me. Because you pan tiny. When you take my fetriser for for for two years. Might take five years, two years two fully muffetrizer navarum. Again said for your for three years, which means you say five years, barum famine, barisha baki pekani shia. Uh kanari roy. Yumbo muna ndu akwa tu munto wa perichi kopo. Afiro ku which definition. Pantuich kopichi koporanguminga chera di cage techi pasi. Napperava mum.

SPEAKER_26 2:32:59

Thank you very much. Hello, colour, please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make your contribution.

SPEAKER_01 2:33:16

Uh Daniel from KipCamp. Good evening, Volume.

SPEAKER_25 2:33:21

Daniel, make your contribution.

SPEAKER_01 2:33:25

You know, because for me I've uh I've already won't cover UPNG we are done and after Master Four the people who are going to vote for UPN and your brothers that you must uh people are UP and you people be your people. So those people And uh yes to the uh keep pushing and uh avoid uh confrontation with UP and Bulgaria Psalm we are the non-valid but uh let's continue to be non-valid. Thank you.

SPEAKER_26 2:34:31

Thank you very much. I'm about to get the last calls call quickly so we hear you. Hello, caller, please tell us your name and where you're calling us from and make a contribution.

SPEAKER_27 2:34:46

Uh good evening, Ambassador.

SPEAKER_26 2:34:49

Yes, good evening. Anonymous, make your contribution.

SPEAKER_27 2:34:55

Yeah, Ambassador, my contribution. I'm just surprised the way the campaigns are going and looking at the way the president is promising. I'm a promises Yambi. For the first five years, they should look back, you know, this Africa today. The president has been lying to the people. This time around, my president, but it's a promise. So, what has been happening? So the reflective sana. After 15th August, I'm just up to see my countries my elections, they will still have power. I've been South Africa, they've we've seen now South Africa was being located every day. But after my elections, I'm right here. So if something happened in Zambia, they will think about suddenly. But it's not like that. So I want to reflect the very well what the president is telling the truth. They've got a better chance to lead the country direction is a person who is lying to the people. So about to reflect and look forward to government. What this current government is up to who will have some power, and the chula more than the chula at the moment. And somebody supports the value that the master celebrities are all those people, most of them buy what they mean. So you are UPN. But wait for them after the next government comes in. So Bala Sampa is gone there, he's just wasting his time. And those are the people that are trying to portray Mozambiya, how can you start a good party namake? They don't answer those people, and that's where it's supposed to be. No, but at the moment, let's focus government at the moment. People must vote wise and protect the vote. It's a very shameful. Anyway, it is his opinion, but it's very shameful. Corruption Avanto Bale Chula Puta Quasari. Corruption is very high in the European, only those who are prosecuted, even government. But I'm collected in the government, they are protected. And the constitution, these people that can even come and change the constitution after my elections. It can happen like that. So be very, very careful and vote wise. Thank you, Mamma.

SPEAKER_26 2:40:18

Thank you very much. Make a contribution.

SPEAKER_03 2:43:24

But the one to Mazambia before you could be sink.

SPEAKER_26 2:43:28

Thank you very much. Thank you very much. We're coming to an end. We will allow you to watch your football and also allow you to rest. Uh today we are analyzing 37 days before 37 days before we go to general elections. Zambia is hosting and is holding presidential, parliamentary, and local government elections. And how is it looking? 37 days before elections. Like I said, two months before, President Akainde HBM was clearly in the lead because he said there was no opposition. And there was no other candidates that appeared firm. But we have seen in the last um uh, especially the last six weeks, that um uh the people of Zambia are the opposition, and they are rallying around Brian Munwine and Makebizulu to the extent that this program can say. So far, 37 days before elections, Brian Mundu is leading, is a major force, and is leading in this election. The president is trying to do a fight and a comeback. He has held various political rallies, but we've done an analysis so far. It appears that it is tilting towards Brian Mundu. We are going to conduct an opinion on this, and we are going to hear from you. We give all benefits for the two leading candidates for the president having you know state institutions, having been an incumbent, and for example, he has done almost five provinces in five days because he's enjoying that. And the two gentlemen, Makebi and Brian Munduide, are struggling on that point because they haven't been given any air permit for their helicopter. And this has actually even helped because their stretch on the roads has allowed them to meet as many Zambians as possible. But it is eating on their time and fatigue, flus and coughs are setting in. They've been away from Lusaka for many days, over two weeks. But it has paid off with the number of rallies, especially Kasama, has turned out to have been the largest rally, even beating Kitue. We'll see how Lusaka will do. Today, the two leaders split. One was in Luingu to address the Luingu rally, and the other was in Lunte to address the Lunte rally. I would propose that they should stick to the two of them appearing on the rallies. But the other forces must be deployed. The other candidates and uh uh uh uh especially the parliamentary candidates and others in the alliance probably should be deployed to go and prepare before the major presidential candidates come. So they there will be the the two, Bran Mundwile and Makebezulu, who start the Laplace rally tomorrow. They are starting with the Muanzawombe rally, and then we'll see how they will come down up to Samfia before they hit Copper Belt and Lusaka. There are many people calling, I've closed, watch football, and um let's have another program to continue to review. A day in politics is a long time. Someone has written that you had said you talk about the remaining candidates such as Honorable Harikarawa and Fred Membly and what do they need to do? It's a pity that I miss that. It's not something I can do in uh in just a by the way issue. I think they would require that we address that matter. Uh just advertise that I would speak about that, but it is clear that the leading candidate is President Akainde Gilman Brian Munduile. And so far, Brian Mundwile has an edge. Uh the other factors in the elections who come and discuss again. So uh many of you kept on talking about the messages. Yes, I'd said we discussed the messages. What messages should be communicated? Again, you know, in these analysis, I I didn't tackle much on that. But the divisive language by the president is of concern to many Kohlers and many Zambians. That the president seems to have two sets of messages. When he's in the area of his strength, southern province, northwestern, western, and central province, he speaks using divisive language, threatening people, that they'll be beaten, they'll be threatened, they'll not go to Lusaka, and that they'll be denied development. And when it comes to the northern secure, Tiwapula, Northern Muchinga, Eastern Province, he keeps he changes the language and he talks of unity, that Zambia is one Zambia, one nation, that we should work together as one Zambia, one nation, yet uses divisive language on the other side. The issue with uh the Tonse Pamosi Alliance, I think the issue of education, health uh, and other sectors have also struck a chord, especially the strong message by Brad Mundwile to the farmers. And on education, Brad Mundwile has insisted that they are not abandoning free education. They will, in fact, upgrade it to quality education, the education that is free, and that they will add supplemental things like uniforms and shoes, and you know, build more spaces for our students who are crammed in small spaces. I think the messages are beginning to get clearer. We need firm messages on foreign policy, on investors, on what to do with the mines. Agriculture and education seems to have been tackled. So I think on our next program we will um uh come and tackle all this. So enjoy football, enjoy your team. If your team has been knocked out, Amazambian Stavashupa, you already have another team. So um let's enjoy football, but we'll find time to uh discuss our our program. I'll leave you with some very important videos. So don't don't go away. They these are very important to refresh ourselves.

SPEAKER_29 2:49:51

The damage in the mind law and order. Sing on the wagaba. Soon we are the endboom we under city, we know wuma, one womanga, when you have been over there. Zambia, Zambia, so many things, although we've done, there are many more things to be done.

SPEAKER_13 2:50:48

We have just started why we feel that we are hated even when we are not, we feel sorry for ourselves, we feel sorry for being in tongue. My father and my mother, I did why I did all my education in Monse. But there's one thing that I have seen when it is time for voting, the kind of message that is given to us, the voters, or the kind of message that is given to us, the people, it is not the message that unites the country. And it is high time the people of southern province to realize and vote together with the whole nation, like the whole nation did in 2021. Nova woman host, I'm sorry. I want to use Tonga, and I'm not sorry for being Tonga because that is the only language I have known as a kid.

SPEAKER_24 2:51:38

So if I feel throughout the year, thank you.

SPEAKER_13 2:51:49

You know how to wanna monze. You are not hated by anyone. If only Muzonde Dwamuntu Munya uzuji. What did he do? He gave land. What did H do? He got that land and under Chief Jonah. He gave that land and said, build a church. What did they do? Is H said, no, no, no, no. Once we come in power, we are going to get that land back. We want to build a stadium, not a church. Chief Jonah Eri. ZCA after ZCA there. What message is coming to the people? No, no baguze new power. I did I did my college at the University of Zambia. I was my station was interseat bus terminals. We now are guntu, and no one no one no one was beating me. We know but today people are believing that Tongas were being beaten in South in Rusaka because it is coming from the top office, which is wrong. We can talk about free education, we can talk about building, we can talk about infrastructure, we can talk about anything. But for as long as we are divided, we do not have a country to call country again. 2021, why we were able to remove a government is because the whole country came together. There was no one who spoke of a tongue, there was no one who said I am Uluvale, I am I am I am Kaonde, I am Losi, I am Bemba, I am Tonga, I'm not going to vote for HH. The country said we need change, and we went there to vote and we brought the change we wanted. But is this the change that he promised us? No, it's not. We made that mistake, and we are ought not to make this mistake yet again because it will not be a mistake now. When we do this, it will be stupidity as a country because we don't know what we want. Then we don't know. We are no longer patriots at the end of it all.

SPEAKER_24 2:53:52

So we all number two among old number two.